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    👑RebYidd23
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    Where are we on this?

    #1110435

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Pro

    #1110436

    Little Froggie
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    Where are we? Right on the gefiltered fishing boat.

    #1110437

    sm29
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    They just jump right in

    #1110438

    TheGoq
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    loaf yumm jar ok jar balls nuh uh.

    #1110439

    zahavasdad
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    Disgusting

    #1110440

    TheGoq
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    my favorite sunday lunch back in the day was mashed gf with chrain on matzo, messy but so good.

    #1110441

    555
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    It is halachikly Assur to say disgusting on food another person eats. The torah teaches that to us when it says about the non kosher animals “Asher ainnenu tehorah” and does not use the word “Tameh”.

    #1110442

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    555 – that would be a good point if gefilte fish was a food.

    #1110443

    Little Froggie
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    Syag!!!!

    555: Assur? Maybe not polite, virtuous, moral. I don’t think it’s outright assur. Again, maybe I’m wrong. One more point, what does it have to do with it being another person’s food?

    #1110444

    zahavasdad
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    When you can catch a Gefilte fish, Ill call it an animal, Until then its disgusting

    #1110445

    555
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    Syag: Do you call Hot dogs food? Or meat loaf?

    Unless it’s some type of computer program or something – I’m not tech savvy.

    What is YWN CR manufactured ‘gefilte fish’?

    #1110446

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    555 – yes. but please, you cannot possibly compare hot dogs to – gulp – gefilte fish

    #1110447

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    #1110448

    555
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    Syag: C”V Of course I’m not comparing. I would never touch any dog food / made from dogs/for dogs. Just the name is repulsive. Do you actually know the ingredients of hot dogs or how they make them? At the same token, do you know the ingredients of gefilte fish? Would you also say -GULP- on sushi? What about meatloaf do you eat that?

    DY: That thread doesn’t say much. What am I missing?

    #1110449

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    555 – you may be unaware of this but hot dogs are not dog food, made from or for dogs.

    -The name being repulsive is your opinion and you are surely welcome to it.

    -Yes i know the ingredients and how they make them.

    -yes i have watched my husband make gefilte fish. ew.

    -yes i say gulp on sushi. also ew.

    -I love meatloaf! thanks for asking.

    now one for you – why in the world are you getting personally defensive about my dislike for gefilte fish?

    #1110450

    zahavasdad
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    I dont care if you like or dislike what I like. You are not me, I happen to like Sushi and find gefile fish vile. You can like whatever you want. If you hate Sushi, good, there is more for me.

    We are differnet people and like differnet things. You can find vile anything I like and I wouldnt care.

    People are told that certain foods have some sort of “Kedush” well they dont, they are generally just foods you are used to or like. If you are used to and like Gefitile Fish, its a nice food to eat. if you cant stand it , then its vile and disgusting and nothing holy about it

    #1110451

    👑RebYidd23
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    Kosher hot dogs are not made of the disgusting ingredients that are in treif ones. And if your gefilte fish tastes that bad to you, you’ve been eating the wrong kind. Everyone has a type or recipe of gefilte fish that they can eat without fainting or vomiting.

    #1110452

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    DY: That thread doesn’t say much. What am I missing?

    Chrein?

    #1110453

    zahavasdad
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    I didnt say I couldnt eat with without fainting or vomiting, I can eat it if drained in Horseradish, but you dont choose foods because you can woof it down without vomitting. I can eat Chopped Liver (Something I find even more repulsive than Gefile Fish) without Vomnitting , but it doesnt mean I like it or want to eat it.

    I eat foods I like to eat, not foods someone tells me I should eat because I wont faint or Vomit

    #1110454

    Joseph
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    I think you should check out your yichus.

    /duck

    #1110455

    zahavasdad
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    Frankly I think some are just shocked that someone could dislike certain foods that they were used to

    #1110456

    TheGoq
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    Frankly mayo on gf is just plain wrong do it with chrain or swallow it plain.

    #1110457

    👑RebYidd23
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    EYCTJ,OIDCY

    #1110458

    555
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    To clarify/repeat. All what i said was, the Torah writes ??? ????? ????? Three extra words instead of one word ???? on animals that Jews are not allowed to eat. To teach us not to say disgusting on food that a human consumes even if it is a goy. Kal v’chomer a Jew.

    ZD: Nobody called the gefilte fish ‘Holy’. Just that people eat it. And why does it have to be an animal to be considered by you food? Chickens are not animals they are birds. Are they food? What about bread? Is milk considered animal or animal by product? B’kitzur how do you define ‘food’?

    Syag: That last question was for you too.

    #1110459

    555
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    Rebyid23 is there a Roshai Taivos directory?

    #1110460

    Mammele
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    Salmon gefilte fish is actually good with mayo, although it’s probably better with “chrayonnaise”.

    #1110462

    👑RebYidd23
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    Either you can’t take a joke or I didn’t catch yours.

    #1110463

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    555 – so in other words you don’t have an answer?

    also, i was taught differently on that pasuk. i was not taught that it was teaching us how to view food. i learned that the pasuk was teaching us how to look at the character traits/qualities of living beings.

    #1110464

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    i was going to mention chrayonnaise too. i only eat fish if i have to and if it has enough chrayonnaise to get lost in it. yum. now THAT’s food.

    #1110465

    zahavasdad
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    Who said anything that I said only animals are food, Apples of course are food too.

    I have definatly heard Gefiltle Fish called “Holy” in fact there is a whole book on “Holy foods”. Some I like some I dont really care for. Dont really care for chicken myself and there are others.

    #1110466

    tirtza
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    After seeing some of the other thread topics, this lite one is most welcome.

    Homemade Gefilte Fish is very good, made with fresh fish ground at home(to avoid the inevitable cartilage type bones ground in the pre-ground) and cooked in a filtered broth made from the bones, carrots, onions, pepper, and salt.

    There are those, however, who really don’t like fish and even this less “fishy” type of GF will not please them, except maybe drowned in lots of charaine.

    Haven’t made it in quite a while, lots of work, as you can imagine.

    #1110467

    tirtza
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    PS Add sugar to the broth, if that’s your inclination.

    Recipe for the fish:

    1.5 Kilo Carp

    2 eggs

    Matza Meal, 1-2 Tbs.(can leave out at Pesach, if that’s your minhag)

    Little salt

    1 lg. onion.

    1 large carrot

    Chop the onion and carrot fine in Food Processor, pulsing

    Cut the fish in chunks and chop in several batches until in fine pcs.

    Mix all ingredients with hands.

    Form Medium balls, w/ moistened hands

    Drop into boiling stock.

    Stock

    If you have fish bones add them to about 3 Liters water.

    Small amt of Salt and black pepper.

    Strain removing fish bones.

    Add to strained stock:

    2 carrots cut in several pieces

    2 onions, sliced

    Bring to boil.

    Remove to container and save carrots but discard onion, save some of the broth to store fish.

    Chill completely and serve.

    #1110468

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    (can leave out at Pesach, if that’s your minhag)

    Now all the antisemites are going to start disparaging the holy minhag of not eating gebrokts! This was a perfectly lite thread, and now look what you’ve done with your inflammatory comment, you’ve turned it into a fight about preserving mesorah!

    😉

    #1110469

    Avram in MD
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    Loaf. Baked until brown on the outside. Served with carrots, onions, and chrain, or covered with tomato sauce before baking.

    #1110470

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    What is it about liberals that they don’t like gefilte fish?

    /duck

    #1110471

    CTLAWYER
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    @dassyochid

    I’m a Liberal. I LOVE Gefilte Fish. It’s a perfect forsphies before the roast duck is served. After all they both started as water animals.

    #1110472

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    roast duck – yuck

    #1110473

    zahavasdad
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    I love roast Duck!!!

    #1110474

    Mammele
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    some have a mesora to eat gefilte fish on Shabbos… And Shabbos morning: eggs with onion and liver… And chulent… And of course, let’s not forget about Challah. So using challah (which ZD hopefully isn’t disgusted by) as the analogy — while one may eat a loaf of bread or a croissant at each meal instead, many find it not Shabbos’dik. I’m not about to designate food as holy because what do I know, but ZD was definitely not so innocent with his GF & chopped liver bashing. So this was a controversial thread except that nobody took the bait. Ouch, I just did.

    And nobody mentioned Shabbos, which is usually when GF and chopped liver are eaten so making fun of it seemed less antagonistic.

    #1110475

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    CTL, so maybe I should ask why the people who hate gefilte fish are all liberals.

    #1110476

    zahavasdad
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    Actually I dont Like Challah either, I find that repulsive too, usually We use Bagels instead. The dough of a Bagel is alot gooier and chewier. There is nothing more tastier than a proper bagel from a good Bagel store.

    Not much of a bread eater except for the gooier chewier ones like Bagels or some fancier ones Ive seen (Dont like Sandwich type breads either like white or rye (Except in a Deli Sandwich).

    Nobody said anything about making fun of anything except I refuse to eat foods I dislike (I do eat Challah , Gefiltle Fish and Chopped Liver if I am at someones house and its served to me, It rude not to eat food served to you)

    #1110478

    oomis
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    ZD, sad to say, you never were zocheh to have tasted my Mother’s (O”H) gefilte fish. It remains to this day, unparallelled within my universe. No one, including moi, has ever even come close to that delicious, sweet (but not too sweet) yummy, perfectly made Shabbos and Yom Tov delicacy. I wish I could still have it, but she had no recipe, and it was the one thing she made that I never learned how to duplicate.

    #1110479

    zahavasdad
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    I think this is one of those things that some dont get, Some people just like or dislike certain foods. I am sure there are plenty of good cooks there and make lots of Yummy food. people have differnet food tastes, I dont know why its so hard for people to get that.

    Ive seen books and Shirum and the “Holiness” of certain foods and people who claim jews should not eat “Goyish” food like Sushi and Pizza. There is nothing holy about Pizza and Sushi and there is nothing Holy about Gefitle Fish or Challah, if you like to eat it , great and if you dont eat something else.

    And If you think I dont like any Hemish food, I actually Like Kishka. Its all personal taste and I dont consider Kishka any more Holy than a Roast Beef (That is what we usually eat in my house since I like that)

    #1110480

    Mammele
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    “Challah” is actually holy and none of us eat it, we actually burn it… Had to put that in.

    #1110481

    zahavasdad
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    the Challah that is burned is holy, however the bread that is yellowish and braded with a fluffy dough and usually used for shabbos is not.

    #1110483

    👑RebYidd23
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    Sushi, gefilte fish, pizza, roast beef or kishka can be holy or not.

    #1110484

    SayIDidIt™
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    If there is no carrot on top, it is not gefilta fish.

    How do you know if you caught a gefilta fish? If it has a carrot on its noise.

    SiDi™

    #1110485

    nishtdayngesheft
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    Original story from Mishpacha in Hebrew here).

    A certain Ba’al Teshuva who had been learning in Israel for two years was eating at a kollel couple’s house on Shabbos. During the meal, it became apparent that the Ba’al Teshuva did not like cholent. The kollel husband remembered reading that one who does not eat “chamin” on Shabbos is to be suspected of being an min (heretic). In addition, he also realized that the Ba’al Teshuva did not shukkle (sway rhythmically back and forth) when he davened (prayed), as many Orthodox Jews do. Upon observing these two behaviors and realizing that the Ba’al Teshuva comes from a country where Judaism is not kept very well, he reasoned that the Ba’al Teshuva must not be a Jew according to halacha. Further questioning of the Ba’al Teshuva’s background turned up nothing to indicate that he was not Jewish. Nonetheless, the question was forwarded to Rav Eliyashiv, who determined that the man must undergo a giur (conversion).

    #1110486

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    wow – what a powerful story! I bet we can extrapolate a whole bunch of hard facts from there, like, i better go check my lineage – pronto!

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