January 11, 2013 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #607779blackhatwannabeParticipant
Is it chukas ha’goy to get down on one knee in a marriage proposal?January 11, 2013 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #919000popa_bar_abbaParticipant
It is chukas hagoy to get married.January 11, 2013 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #919001PatriMember
I don’t know of it technically qualifies as chukas hagoyim, but it certainly is a very unjewish thing to do. Quite ekeldik.January 11, 2013 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #919002OneOfManyParticipant
Patri: Is that so? You didn’t seem to mind when your wife did it…January 11, 2013 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #919003akupermaParticipant
It involves numerous problems, and I seriously doubt an Orthodox rabbi of any flavor would say it is mutar. If you are looking for a heter, look for one who is not familiar with American goyish customs so he might not be aware of the halachic objections. It is probable that a “modern Orthodox” rabbi, being better informed, would object more strongly.January 11, 2013 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #919004CuriosityParticipant
Easy, just pretend to tie your shoe right before you propose! Or go down on both knees so it’s done with a shinui.January 11, 2013 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #919005KovodHabriyosMember
Genuflection (or genuflexion), bending at least one knee to the ground, a gesture of deep respect for a superior. Lay people or clergy of lesser rank genuflect to a prelate and kiss his episcopal ring, as a sign of acceptance of the bishop’s apostolic authority as representing Christ in the local church.
Genuflecting before the bishop of the diocese to which one belongs was treated as obligatory in editions of the Caeremoniale Episcoporum earlier than that of 1985.
In the same period, the clergy genuflected when passing before the bishop of the diocese when he presides at a liturgical ceremony. But the officiating priest, as also all prelates, canons, etc., were dispensed, and substituted a bow of the head and shoulders for the genuflection.
Genuflection to the Blessed Sacrament, especially when arriving or leaving its presence, is a practice in the Anglican Communion, the Latin Rite Catholic Church, and the Lutheran Church.
(Wikipedia)January 11, 2013 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #919006Sam2Participant
It’s Vadai an Issur D’Oraisa of Chukas Hagoyim, regardless of how cute the guy or girl thinks it is.January 12, 2013 5:48 pm at 5:48 pm #919007uneeqParticipant
I proposed with a made up song on the guitar, so I didn’t have to get on one knee. The end of the song was the proposal.January 12, 2013 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #919008KovodHabriyosMember
One needn’t and shouldnt get on their knee regardless of how (or if) he proposes.January 12, 2013 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #919009WolfishMusingsParticipant
Easy, just pretend to tie your shoe right before you propose! Or go down on both knees so it’s done with a shinui.
When Eeees and I were dating, I was standing in her kitchen one day while she was looking in the refrigerator for something. I told her I needed to ask her something. At the same time, I had got down on one knee… to tie my shoe. She turned around and thought I was going to propose to her… something I had no intention of doing at that time. It did not occur to me that she might even think that — until afterwards, of course.
(Not that it really mattered — we both knew at that point that it wasn’t a question of “if” we were going to get married, but “when.”)
When I did propose, I did not get down on one knee.
The WolfJanuary 13, 2013 1:57 am at 1:57 am #919010Rabbi PerfectMember
The widely accepted ruling is that it is not to be done. However, some people still do it anyway. This doesn’t make it any better.July 11, 2017 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #1315524JosephParticipant
Even without being on one’s knee, the very idea of the guy proposing with the verbiage “Will you marry me” itself comes from the goyim.July 11, 2017 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #1315536👑RebYidd23Participant
“Will you marry me” is the simplest way to put the question. And the question needs to be asked. Otherwise you won’t get an answer.July 11, 2017 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #1315548JosephParticipant
I hear. But to davka use that specific verbiage rather than anything else because of societies fondness of it, is where my point is applicable to.
Obviously this isn’t the same aveira as c’v actually getting on the knee.July 11, 2017 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #1315554MenoParticipant
“Will you marry me” is the simplest way to put the question
What’s wrong with “So nu?”July 12, 2017 6:57 am at 6:57 am #1315682NechomahParticipant
Meno, that’s truly funny!!! I can just picture the kallah talking to her friends and one of them asking her, “So how did he propose?” “Um……July 12, 2017 9:15 am at 9:15 am #1315710jakobParticipant
bending down on both knees is worse then proposing on kne knee, as sitting or bending/folding both knees is like bowing down to avoda zara
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