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Do you know how many HOURS and HOURS my kids played Monopoly over yom tov? It’s unreal! Anyone else’e kids bonding over Monpopoly? (We have many other games, mind you)
My cousins have a family tradition of playing Monopoly during Sukkos. I have been with them for Sukkos (and joined in the game) for the past few years, but not this year since it is my first Sukkos since getting married 🙂
🙁 My family spent hours and days playing board games (monopoly, masterpiece, payday, magnificent race, pente). We would sometimes play endless games and save the board and pieces under the couch til next time. My kids don’t really like board games and it makes me miss my siblings intensely. My kids disappear in legos instead.
I always liked owning the low rent district I guess I’m a slum lord at heart
I spent some time this Yom Tov playing Munchkin with my kids, wife and nieces.
(By the way, want to cut down on the length of your Monopoly games? Play according to the rules re: Free Parking. By constantly adding money to the game whenever a player lands on it (as per usual house rules) you are unnecessarily prolonging the game.)
The Wolf
I don’t “do” Monopoly, but over Rosh Hashana my cousins played a two-day-long game that ended rather abruptly when my cousin found out that about six hours before my brother had stolen money from the bank to get him out of bankruptcy.
It’s hard to face up to the fact that my kid brother is a felon… 🙁
I learned in school that one is not supposed to play with games that use fake money on Shabbos or Yom Tov. Did anyone else hear of this?
Torah – there are some who don’t use fake money on shabbos, and I have also learned that it can be used in games where one is paying but not acquiring (if I recall correctly), so monopoly would be out, but payday would be in. Masterpiece would be out but careers would be in. We actually had a version of monopoly that had wildlife habitats instead of properties and when you landed on a space, you would pay for their upkeep. I guess that would make it in.
MY FATHER DOESN’T PLAY MONEY GAMES ON SHABBOS AND YOM TOV EITHER.
I spoke to a very chashuv NY posek about this. He said that it is completely muttar to play games with fake money on shabbos.
He said that the ??? ??? which people cite is talking about a situation where they were actually gambling and the fake money represented real money they would pay after shabbos.
He was concerned, however, about reading the cards on shabbos…
MY FATHER DOESN’T PLAY MONEY GAMES ON SHABBOS AND YOM TOV EITHER.
Thank you.
1. Because your father does or does not do something does not make it right or wrong for anyone else.
2. There is no need to yell. Next time, please do not use ALL CAPS.
The Wolf
I have also heard that some people don’t play with fake money on Shabbos and also that it is muttar.
Do they still sell the standard monopoly?
I was in Eretz Yisroel about a year ago and I went to visit Malcha Mall. There was a Toys R Us there so I went in to see what type of toys and games they sold there. One of the things that they were selling was an American Monopoly which came along with a free dictionary. I thought it was very funny.
syag- take your older kids to a toy store n get them to settle on one board game for yomtov. There are so many out there, from strategy to word games to games of chance to deep-thinking to simple fun and on n on. Something for every type really. The problem by us is when each kid likes a different type! One likes monopoly and catan, another stratego and chess, and i’m a lover of word games and anti-‘the game of risk’ :). But we all take turns choosing the games, so we’ll suffer through some games but then get our first choice later
The Shmiras Shabbos quotes the Shittos and is Meikil, but says that a Ben Torah (maybe a Ba’al Nefesh; not positive which Lashon he uses) should avoid using games that involve fake money on Shabbos. I do not recall him mentioning Popa’s Hesber of the Chayei Adam.
Thanks Sam.
To be precise, the rav said “those who quote the chayei odom don’t know how to learn.”
PBA: I won’t quote the Chayei Adam because I don’t recall it, but that seems like harsh words (unless the CH”A explains his case explicitly). The SHSH”K saw fit to quote it, at least, though I don’t remember which edition I saw it in (V’hameivin Yavin).
I know, right? But that’s what he said. I remember it clearly although it was about 17 years ago.
My husband and I frequently play Settlers of Catan on Shabbos (we figured out how to make it into a 2 player game). Although we love Munchkin, we don’t have a chevra of people to play it with anymore…maybe in a few months when we return to the States.
Thank you Popa.
I had heard there was an issue with Borrer when seperating the money into piles of denominations. Can anyone (who knows what they are talking about) confirm or deny?
Wolf, feminist:
I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who enjoys Munchkin around here! I have a group of friends I play it with every few weeks (or other games). In the summer, we play Shabbos afternoon, in the winter, we play Friday nights.
Do you only use the original, or do you have expansions? My friend who introduced me to the game has the original and Munchkin 2. I have the original, Star Munchkin, and the expansion to Star Munchkin (Space Ships).
shkoiach: There are Borrer issues with most games. Just make sure you know what you are allowed and not allowed to do.
It’s funny. For Frum Jews most board games are usually played on Shabbos. Thus, many people play these games in a way that avoids Borrer even if they happen to play on weekdays, just because that is how they are so used to doing it.
OMG!! The memories!! My siblings and i used to start a game of Risk friday night and it would go on through shabbos and sometimes a day or so into the week! Now i dislike that game with a passion. Its interesting how board games arent as popular as they were a few years ago – could be I’m wrong about this as my kids are too young to have the patience to sit and play for so long. But I think electronics have taken over the teenagers time, and building toys take over the younger children…well buidling toys never go out of style!
Sam2: I learned that when keeping score in scrabble on a weekday, one should use a method other than writing (i.e. use bookmarks on pages to indicate score) so that when you play on shabbos, you won’t be in the habit of writing down the score and accidentally do it.
Candyland – every day, with my five year old granddaughter. She won, every time. But she didn’t gloat.
As an aside, we played a card game “War” together, and when I won a really big DOUBLE war, she said, “Yay!” So I informed her that maybe she didn’t understand that SHE had lost the round and I was the winner, to which she replied, “I know, but I was so happy for you, Bubby!” Now, THAT is a nachas!
I love playing Axis and Allies, one of the greatest games, but Monopoly is always played.
I used to play Munchkin but the game grew too frustrating, when people stared to figure out loopholes and technicalities.
I also have memories of playing texas hold em poker. We had chips but never played for money. Looking back it probably was not the most appropriate game for Shabbos but we were 12-13 and didn’t know any better.
DaMoshe, we have friends with expansion sets, so we have played Munchkin Cthulhu and Munchkin Xmas editions. It does get interesting because there are a few monsters– I don’t remember all of them, but I think one was a baby Cthulhu– that I think are really really cute, and I’ll do whatever I can to keep players from killing them, even if it’s not endgame. Not the best strategy, I know, but it makes the game fun anyway. In general, I think the Xmas expansion is better than the Cthulhu expansion.
“the wolf”
I was not saying it is right or wrong. just saying
and I didnt mean to put it in all caps
i play on shabbos and yom tov . I personally think there is nothing wrong with it.
Do you only use the original, or do you have expansions?
Only the original. I only played my first game this past Yom Tov.
The Wolf
My kids are very much into playing Perpetual Commotion.
We played the Hebrew version of Settlers of Catan this chag!
I graduated from Monopoly to Charge Large, A game that ends with a definite goal.
i used to play loads of monopoly and now during bein hazmanim y play risk or catan usually risk because that is what more people know how to play in yeshiva i sleep
Is it permitted to play Bananagrams on Shabbos?
Only if it apeels to you.
Goq
You should apply for a job at laffy taffy.
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