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  • #614736
    the plumber
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    i was at a basketball game last night with my kids, it was a stupid game and my kids were getting restless.

    Part of the side entertainment at the game was “dancers”, now im not talking about the prutzos that we all stare at our phones til theyre done. They had senior dancers.

    Basically the local senior center sends over a bunch of old people to “dance”

    I was so surprised when the old men came out in…hats and jackets.

    I dismissed it as old people, but as i was walking out if the game i saw a bunch of black hats (they were wearing coats so i dont know about the jackets).

    Is this a new thing? Are yeshiva guys gonna start feeling a lot less embarassed to wear what theyre supposed to wear?

    #1055572
    Joseph
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    Why are you going, and even worse – taking your innocent children! – somewhere they have what you call prutzos dancing at?

    #1055573

    Maybe they were making fun of them?

    #1055574
    richashu
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    You cant ask a kasha on a maisah.

    #1055575
    A jew who cares
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    All the genuine Yeshiva guys I know are NOT embarassed to wear hats and jackets.

    Why should they be?

    Perhaps those who spend their free time playing basketball are embarrassed to be seen wearing hats in public.

    #1055576
    TheGoq
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    It sure looked classy on shelly silver.

    #1055577
    the plumber
    Member

    Notice that i wasnt asking if its ok to go to a basketball game. I dont really care about your opinion lior.

    And they arent making fun. Theyre 70 yr olds.

    And a lot of yeshivah guys nowadaya are embarassed

    #1055578
    OURtorah
    Participant

    a jew who cares- why you so judgemental? Stop focusing on other peoples growth

    #1055579
    A jew who cares
    Participant

    All I’m saying is that a genuine Yeshiva guy is comfortable in their own skin.

    #1055580
    Joseph
    Participant

    No real yeshiva guys are embarrassed to dress like yeshiva guys. The only ones embarrassed are the fakers; like those who go to places with immodesty.

    #1055581
    TheGoq
    Participant

    Has anyone seen the magic kippa? made in israel it looks like a little toupee and was designed for jews in europe who cant feel safe wearing a kippa in public.

    #1055582
    the plumber
    Member

    A jew who cares

    Maybe if you played a little basketball as a bochur, you wouldnt be burned out and might be Able to still be in yeshiva.

    And goq

    Ive seen it. Its hysterical and terrifying at the same time. Hysterical that its actual out there. And terrifying that its necesary in certain places in the world

    #1055583
    OURtorah
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    a jew who cares- so to be comfertable in your skin and consider yourself a “yeshiva guy” you have to wear a jacket and a hat all the time? Is a coloured button down shirt on a weekday a sin?

    #1055584
    Sam2
    Participant

    the plumber: Your cause and effect are reversed. Yeshiva guys wear those clothes because that was what was considered respectable when those “old guys” were growing up. It’s nothing about what they’re “supposed to” wear.

    #1055585
    the plumber
    Member

    Sam2

    Thats healthy. Just sum up a hock among gedolim/rebbeim in a sentence.

    You wanna also sum up the worlds minhagim on chalav yisrael and derech halimud too?

    Im sure everyone on the cr would greatly appreciate that

    #1055586
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Actually, summing things up in simple sentences is a good thing as long as it’s accurate.

    #1055587
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    Just to clarify a recent post of mine, I am not embarrassed to wear a hat and jacket. However, I do find it very uncomfortable to walk around all day with them. And so, if I’m outside and need to daven Mincha, I will daven without a h/j instead of running home to get it.

    If you don’t like it, too bad! That’s me. Am I Yeshivish?!

    SiDi™

    #1055588
    the plumber
    Member

    Ry23

    Were not disagreeing. If theyre accurate…

    #1055589
    Joseph
    Participant

    sidi: During the summer some people are uncomfortable wearing more than a t-shirt, shorts and sandals. And when needing to catch mincha won’t run home to change. That’s them. Are they yeshivish?

    #1055590
    TheGoq
    Participant

    Sidi you are indeed yeshivish which is determined by your good heart and ahavas yisroel.

    #1055591
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    Lior, that is who they are and I’m OK with it. My entire post was in reference to my previous post on Veltz Meshugener’s “

    In defense of your fakery” thread.

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/in-defense-of-your-fakery#post-553716

    #1055592
    Little Froggie
    Participant

    SiDi: I’m not at all the posek, Rav, or any other other of the like, I’d just like to comment that in my humblekite I think it would still be preferable to run home and get your hat & jacket because off ???. A special act of preparing oneself for the audience and meeting of the Big Boss in Heaven.

    -my humble thoughts, feel free to correct me.

    #1055594

    Look at what the shulchan aruch says about a beged meyuchad letfilah, then we’ll decide who’s yeshivish. Btw, how do you define yeshivish?

    #1055595
    Sam2
    Participant

    LF: It is possible to accomplish Hikon without getting a hat and jacket.

    #1055596
    kj chusid
    Participant

    I always wear a hat

    #1055597
    kj chusid
    Participant

    Also sidi I thought u were a girl

    #1055598

    as a yeshiva bochur i can say that wearing a hat and jacket basically just adds to the respectable look yeshiva bochurim are supposed to have thats all it means to me

    #1055599

    i myself wear a hat and jacket and enjoy the look

    #1055601
    NeutiquamErro
    Participant

    It’s a very good look, both because it simply looks good, and because in comparison to some of the trash people wear it makes the wearer look respectable and refined in comparison.

    BTW, this applies to all tznius and sensible, smart clothing, for any gender and any age (well, definitely the latter point).

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    #1055602
    TheGoq
    Participant

    I define Yeshivish as someone who is a lamdan and has good middos, one without the other would not qualify.

    #1055605
    TAYRON
    Member

    its non of the plumbers buisness what they do

    #1055606
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    A lot of things look great in comparison to trash.

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