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July 1, 2020 11:55 am at 11:55 am #1878424
hey guys im a bochur in eretz yisroel, until now my yeshiva was funding my food. now im on a pretty restricted budget, so i wanted to know what good substitutions for meat i can put inside my cholent. i was thinking about chicken wings but im not sure how good it would be or how long i should even cook it for. any recommendations would be appreciatedJuly 1, 2020 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm #1878495chymeeParticipant
Try franks, you’ll love it,July 1, 2020 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm #1878573commonsaychelParticipant
Take out is the best substitute for home made cholent.July 1, 2020 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #1878665LurkerParticipant
When I was in Israel thru used to make cholent with chicken. It always gave me a stomach ache. If you have access to a frying pan, you can saute a whole lot of onions. If you put that in, you can make a decent vegetarian cholent, or you can throw in a few bones also for flavor.July 1, 2020 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm #1878670
In the very unlikely event you are not trolling, consider using tofu or other vegetable proteins. Considerably less expensive than beef and certainly much healthier.
P.S. In case you haven’t learned hilchos kashrus, chazal bring down that chicken wings are considered fleishig so if you are using them in lieu of “meat” you should avoid pairing your cholent with a cholov yisroel milkshake.July 1, 2020 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm #1878672Shimon NodelParticipant
Turkey or chicken pastramiJuly 2, 2020 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm #1878743
uhhh this would be a pretty dumb troll post. no im in eretz yisroel and i wanna make thurs night cholent and need a good meat substitute, given the limited funds (meat here is quite expensive).
but tachlis what im hearing is bones and turkey are a good sub?July 2, 2020 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm #1878745chaim_baruchParticipant
I’ve been living in Israel for over thirty years and have been cooking for nearly that long. Firstly, don’t make a chicken cholent, they’re not appealing. If you’re really strapped for cash, and you must have chulent, I suggest Merguez or Kabanos sausages (but check the hechsher carefully) and add a homemade kiska.
However, the fact is Glatt beef is not as expensive as you think. When you consider one package of Mehadrin Chicken Wings costs about 10-13 NIS per kilo, some beef can be found for under 30 NIS a kilo. Remember one kilo of beef has more meat than a kilo of chicken.
Avoid the frozen meat in you local Makolet, they’re almost always overpriced. Go to Machane Yehuda (or another shuk if you’re not near Jerusalem), most of the butchers are Glatt (because Sefardim only eat “Halak” AKA Glatt) and explain your situation. You can use #8 Shank, #10 Neck Clod or even #3 Brisket. And ask for beef bones, they add flavor.
If after all that, you are still stuck with chicken, don’t make a traditional cholent. Make something like Tbit, a chicken and rice dish that sits on the plata all night. Recipes can be found online.
בהצלחהJuly 2, 2020 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm #1878820lefianiyusdaatiParticipant
turkey legsJuly 2, 2020 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm #1878818
Lurker: Perhaps your gastro-issues were “bean-related” rather than “fowl-driven”. Lighten up on the beans and use lean chicken breasts/white meat with lots of other veggies and just a bit of fat for flavoring.
B’taavon!!!July 2, 2020 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm #1878893
thats exactly what i did! made a barley only cholent (as usual), someone gave me a thing of fat with a little bit of meat on it and i put some chicken wings inside. looks deliciousJuly 2, 2020 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm #1878892
there are butchers in the shuk with good hashgachos? i try to eat only very specific ones…
anyways i thought that meat here was like 70 shek a kiloJuly 12, 2020 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm #1881475
@asimpleyid- No, the butchers in the Shuk do not have a-level hechsherim. There is no cheap a-level meat. I’ve heard turkey works. You can go into hackers and ask for shmaltz. If they give you it for free, thats all you need.July 12, 2020 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #1881615
Toi Why would you want a bochur in EY to eat saturated fat when there are so many healthier alternatives??July 12, 2020 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm #1881645n0mesorahParticipant
‘Good’ in the OP does not refer to good health. We would want him to enjoy his cholent. Also, rabbit starvation.July 13, 2020 8:32 am at 8:32 am #1881671
@GH- Because, shmaltz.July 13, 2020 8:33 am at 8:33 am #1881673
yea thats what i did last week. also got some chicken wings so i can still get some meat in the cholent and it was greatJuly 13, 2020 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm #1881773
Thanks Toi….so in your world, it can’t be “good” unless its “bad” for your health. There are many very tasteful alternatives to high fat, salty and starch filled foods that seem to be rejected more on the basis that our grandparents didn’t eat them in the alte heim so we shouldn’t either.July 13, 2020 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm #1881805bsharg2Participant
hot dogs taste good in cholent, ive had it beforeJuly 13, 2020 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #1881838n0mesorahParticipant
Who cares what our grandparents ate? Whatever gets a yeshiva bochur to want to eat his own food, is viable.July 13, 2020 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #1881919
Na, just shmaltz. Evidently, you were never a bochur.July 16, 2020 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #1882879
all the healthy alternatives are both too hard to make and too expensive. chicken wings are dirt cheap and u can save them to make a nice dinner (kinda), and a kilo of fat from the butcher costs 10 shekel and it lasts for like 2-3 weeks. pretty worth it id say
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