November 9, 2010 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #592967
anyone have a recommendation of the best herring i just got into herring and love the matjash and lox from shwartz?November 9, 2010 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #708346
Freunds from BP.
Beside matjas also try the naked, dill, and parve cream.
(I also suggest schnapps and Listerine pocket packs fo afterwars.)November 9, 2010 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm #708347
anything else from shwartz? what kind of shnapps goes with herring the best?November 9, 2010 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm #708348
I like a smoky scotch with herring. Like Springbank.November 9, 2010 11:40 pm at 11:40 pm #708349
Start with vodka with the matjes. Put a piece of herring into the vodka for a “Herringtini”, which I invented durring l’chaims in the beis midrash when I was in yeshiva. Add some of the herring juice to make a “dirty” Herringtini. This works with the naked too.
Try scotch after the others.
Enjoy these l’shem mitzvah and l’koved shabbos! Tzaddikim can have a gilgul into fish whose eyes never close, so release their whole sparks with the proper kavanah!November 9, 2010 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #708350SacrilegeMember
“I also suggest schnapps and Listerine pocket packs fo afterwars”
And a shower and wash your clothes… that smell clings.November 10, 2010 1:55 am at 1:55 am #708351A23Participant
Anyone ever try herring in yogurt? It’s much better than you’d think.November 10, 2010 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #708352rabbiofberlinParticipant
well, at least a thread that makes people laugh !!! Great comments ,fellows ! and just to let you know how people eat herring in the rest of the world…if you ever go to holland, you will see people stop at small stands, pick up a herring by its tail,, roll it in chopped onions, and swallow it right there and then !!!! these fresh matjes herring (called groene haring)is the BEST in the world !!!
next best id the herring I had in berlin for kiddush -fantastic with a glass (yes-big glass) of vodka ! next best is the herring from egg stores in stamford hill,london. the herring in the US can’t hold a candle to these places.November 10, 2010 2:56 pm at 2:56 pm #708353PosterMember
I also like herring from Schwartz. The white sauce one. Don’t know the name.November 10, 2010 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #708354A23Participant
Poster, you’re probably thinking about their Shtiglitz herring.November 10, 2010 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #708355crdleMember
The dill herring,Israeli style herring and herring in cream sauce from Pomegranate is amazing!November 10, 2010 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #708356lkwdfellowMember
Without a question – Schwartz’s matjas wins. Their Shtiglitz comes in a close second. Of course, you need the right bourbon to go along with it…November 10, 2010 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #7083571st timerParticipant
just tried spicy oneg shabbos herring from schwartz’s-was delicious and also their danish herring…..wow, cant wait for shabbosNovember 10, 2010 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #708358
Try matjas from Deli Plus on 18th ave and 57th st. He was the original matjas seller. Best shtiglitz is Schwartz. Of course you can try to make it yourself. Buy whole matjas filets. Lay them straight in a glass long bowl, sprinkle pepper and cover with sliced onions and olive oil. Wait 2 days. Cut up and eat with sliced eggs and tomatoes on crackers. Wash mouth with listerine and hands with deodorant soap.
Another. Buy a schmaltz herring filet (not the same as matjas, beware). Also a little pepper and onions and olive oil. Wait 2 days. Take the filet and cut into tiny pieces. Chop a tomato, onion, add herring pieces, add olive oil. Eat with fresh pumpernickle bread and butter. Wash mouth with listerine and hands with deodorant soap. But stay out of the world anyway.
Best single malt scotch after herring, any herring, is a good smoky one like Laphroaig or Lagavulin. Then eat chulent kishka kugel with smoked deli meats. Drink a good beer like Guinness stout or Zywiec porter or Doppel Spaten Optimator. Go to sleep for 2 hours. Wake up and be a maamin in Hashem and tchiyas hameisim. Never tell a goy to do this. You’ll kill the poor guy.November 10, 2010 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #708359
how long does herring last for in the fridge mine only a week!!!November 10, 2010 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #708360
what about basil haydens after herringNovember 10, 2010 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm #708361
na shver! vodka is pretty good!November 10, 2010 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #708362
vodka is shverrrr only grey goose is goodNovember 10, 2010 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #708363
OMG you guys have no idea of what food goes with which drink. Bourbon after herring? Vodka after herring? Bourbon is good after dinner. Vodka from the freezer goes with caviar. Single malt scotch, being G-d’s gift to humanity, goes anytime anyplace. I had a vodka from rye, wow was that good, can’t recall the name. Had a sweet and yet spicy taste. Too bad I didn’t have any caviar. But I did drink that after egg and onion on shabbos and after galler.November 10, 2010 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #708364rabbiofberlinParticipant
theprof1- your advice on how to eat herring makes for a very solitary and single life!!! first make sure that your wife eats with you, then at least you won’t have to stand in the shower for three hours and rinse your mouth with a whole bottle of listerine.
as far as the drink to go with herring, vodka really is the best (just ask the russians) but i’ll take single malt or any scotch in an emergency. BTW- laphroiag and lagavulin are VERY smoky and many people don,t like it. I enjoy although my favorite single is glenfiddich 12 years and my favorite blend is johnny black. no need to spend more money for hype.November 10, 2010 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #708365
Rabbi about more money, you’re right. Most of the single malt 12s are really good. The 18s are better true but you don’t really have to spend more. I’ve had many very expensive single malts and they are better but as long as I can only afford the 12s and 15s, thats what I drink. Since my wife also likes herring and galler I don’t have a problem.November 10, 2010 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #708366
I think some of the chevra here need to read the nutritional information label on a herring jar. It’s not exactly health food.November 10, 2010 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #708367YW Moderator-80Member
there is some oil and sugar in it but it is mostly proteinNovember 10, 2010 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #708368
in generel heimish food is not healthy!November 10, 2010 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm #708369
Herring has omega-3 acid and is actually quite healthy for the heart. Its the rest of the diet on shabbos that does the job.November 10, 2010 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #708370
what about the booze thats worseNovember 10, 2010 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm #708371
Prof., how about the cholesterol in the typical jar of herring? How’s that working out for your heart?November 10, 2010 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm #708372
anyone try the spicy matjaz herring? how is it?November 10, 2010 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #708373cherrybimParticipant
The reason you mavinim give accolades to Schwartz matyas herring is because you’ve never had the real deal. Actually, these kosher herrings are just ok but you can do much better yourself. The repackers just take herring that’s been processed and add a little oil and onions and charge whatever you suckers will pay.
The same for shtiglitz (which is a made up word), and you can hardly find the micro bits of herring in the sauce.
For fresh, cheap, delicious shtiglitz: buy some pickled herring (in wine sauce) in a jar, add some of the liquid from the jar to mayo and mix to a thick consistency, add a minced Bermuda onion and some sugar to taste, add the drained herring pieces, put in fridge overnight and you’ve got a delight you can’t buy anywhere.
The color of matyas herring should be naturally dark rusty looking from the spices in the brine, not reddish from beet juice used by the imposters who label any herring with beet juice as matyas, and you guys fall for it.
You can find minimally processed matyas and experiment on your own.
Enjoy!November 11, 2010 12:20 am at 12:20 am #708374
mr cheerybim by the time you buy all the ingrediants its almost how much the companies charge plus who wants to go through the hassel of making it .November 11, 2010 12:23 am at 12:23 am #708375
also keichel for herring tam tams are bedievedNovember 11, 2010 12:55 am at 12:55 am #708376deiyezoogerMember
Any herring, any time, as long that I have my tums with me.November 11, 2010 1:21 am at 1:21 am #708377
Anyone who does not like shmaltz herring should look into their yichus.November 11, 2010 3:06 am at 3:06 am #708378cherrybimParticipant
labubby – you are obviously no herring mavin; but abee g’ret.November 11, 2010 3:06 am at 3:06 am #708379
PBA, My yichus is fine. How is your cardiologist?November 11, 2010 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #708380
What about the cardiologist’s yichus? Or the herring’s yichus?November 11, 2010 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #708381
My cardiologist is fine. Business is booming.November 11, 2010 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #708382
PBA, I am sure you are correct.
When will people learn that being a good Jew does not require eating unhealthy (or unhealthy amounts of) so-called “Jewish food?”November 11, 2010 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #708383
I eat gargantuan amounts of shmaltz herring every shabbos.
But I agree, you need to eat healthfully.November 12, 2010 6:34 am at 6:34 am #708384
PBA, excessive consumption of schmaltzy food may lead to excessive production of schmaltzy substances in the blood (e.g. lipids, triglycerides, “bad” cholesterol).
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