December 24, 2017 9:35 am at 9:35 am #1434306
I can’t understand how jewish people can live there (the USA) , Besides for the stressed way of life there, there is so much crime. Armed robberies, murders, mass shootings. And then theres huge traffic everywhere, unemployment, a twisted justice system, eg what happened to rubashkin would never happen in a normal developed country, even in israel, they know better than that.
People asked me if I ever thought of moving to the US as Judaism here in the UK is dwindling and there is little future for the younger generation, I told them USA is out of the question, because of these reasons.
I just wonder, are you not scared to live in such a country?
The most dangerous part of the United Kingdom is London and even there it is a huge joke compared to new york,December 24, 2017 11:59 am at 11:59 am #1434459iacisrmmaParticipant
From all the reports of anti-semitism in the UK, you ask those who live in the US about being scared? I try to imagine being in the UK when a car is used as a weapon and the police don’t even have a gun to shoot to try and stop it.
Please let us know how your vacation in Jordan and Lebanon turns out.December 24, 2017 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm #1434478
In the UK, Europe and Israel it is worse regarding the points you mention. Many British, European and Israeli Jews have moved to America.December 24, 2017 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #1434518
iACRCRISMSII …whatever …..I am looking forward to going to jordan and lebanon. They are on the whole, peaceful countries and don’t suffer anywhere near the dangers that the average american cities do .
Joseph: Please don’t distinguish between europe and the UK. It is like saying ” Many French and european jews ….”
The UK is europeDecember 24, 2017 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #1434586WinnieThePoohParticipant
US 4.3% (July 2017), 4.1% (Oct 2017)
UK 4.2% (July 2017)
Of course these numbers will vary greatly by state and city. Traffic of course depends on where you live.
From an article in the Telegraph, Oct 20, 2017, entitled “London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest” states that crime is up 13% across the UK.
“While both London and New York have populations of around 8 million, figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery. London has almost three times the number of reported rapes and while the murder rate in New York remains higher, the gap is narrowing dramatically.”
As far as criminal injustice, a google search will come up with many examples of wrongful convictions and bias in the UK, including a recent government report on the bias against minorities within the criminal justice system. Human-made justice systems are as fallible and corruptible as humans are.December 24, 2017 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1435620
RoC: Now that Britain seceded from Europe, not only politically but even physically with the English Channel, sorry but you’re no longer European. But not too worry lad, you can always become an American.
Lakewood awaits you.December 24, 2017 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm #1435640HealthParticipant
Rabbi of Crawley -“Armed robberies, murders, mass shootings.”
I guess that there is no violent crime in Great Britain?!?
At least in the US – the cops and normal citizens can protect themselves.
IE: A lot of people have legal guns!December 24, 2017 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #1435665gildaParticipant
London is sooo dreary always raining tons of Muslims robberies galore you’re comparing it to nee York?December 26, 2017 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #1437028👑RebYidd23Participant
Why would someone voluntarily live in a place where foxes are banned? It’s so speciesist.December 26, 2017 9:01 pm at 9:01 pm #1437099jdf007Participant
I always lament how I don’t hear this mockery of the United States anymore since Europe has fallen into a crime ridden gutter. I remember when British television comedies (the PBS variety anyway) would mock the US, but those shows were produced back when I guess Europe had a very short golden age.
I get sad just thinking about it.December 27, 2017 9:25 am at 9:25 am #1437268
OK ENOUGH ALREADY
At least our overseas territories are undisputedly crime free such as gibraltar, bermuda ,british antarctic territory, flakland islands turksand caicosDecember 27, 2017 10:05 am at 10:05 am #1437301iacisrmmaParticipant
RofC: Don’t dish it out if you can’t take the return heat.December 27, 2017 10:59 am at 10:59 am #1437391WinnieThePoohParticipant
Ah, the British Empire at its best.
So does that mean you are moving to the British Antarctic Territory? Would you change your name then to Rabbi of BAT? Antarctica has grown in popularity in the CR as of late, so expect some company.December 27, 2017 11:28 am at 11:28 am #1437462CTLAWYERParticipant
Ms. CTL who is on the way to Antarctica has spent an extra two weeks in Chile. Why? They planned to be in Argentina, but with a ship registered in Cayman Islands (British Commonwealth) they are not welcome.
Arrival in Antarctica in about 2 weeks…then on to South Africa (R&R) and a flight home.
As for Rabbi of Crawley’s claim of no crime in Gibraltar…it’s not so. Those apes on the rock will steal your lunch right out of your hand, as well as the hat off your head.
The British Empire ended with India’s independence. The Emperor George VI was then merely a king. RoC seems to be living in the pastDecember 27, 2017 11:51 am at 11:51 am #1437495
The sun never sets on the British Empire.December 27, 2017 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm #1437541NOYBParticipant
England? really? You have terror attacks every 5 minutes, and no option to protect yourself because you can’t have guns. If someone drove through any city in America yelling anti-semitic slurs, they would be arrested. Not so in England. Kids being beaten up on their way to yeshiva or shul is normal there. The crime here is really not so bad in the Jewish areas. There is nowhere in America I would be scared to walk looking like a yid (except maybe Dearborn, Michigan). Every country has unemployment. England has an epidemic of people throwing acid at each other. Why would you want to live there? It’s not even like there is nice weather or something to justify living there.December 27, 2017 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm #1437551
Wait — weren’t the Yidden expelled from England??December 27, 2017 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #1437680
yes we were expelled but not because of hatred. It was more about sustaining the interests of british societyDecember 27, 2017 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #1437745Avram in MDParticipant
Rabbi of Crawley,
The fact that you think that Jordan and Lebanon (!!!) are nice, safe places to visit does not bode well for our impressions of Britain. Like someone from Canada saying that Chicago is not so cold.December 28, 2017 9:44 am at 9:44 am #1438571englishjew5774Participant
NOYB I really hope you are trolling because if not I seriously pity your ignorance.
“Terrorist attacks every 5 minutes”
There have been 5 fatal muslim terrorist attacks in the UK since 2005
There have been 21 fatal muslim terrorist attacks in the US since 2005
“and no option to protect yourself because you can’t have guns.”
We don’t need guns to protect ourselves if barely anyone has guns.
Of the 5 fatal terrorist attack, not one was committed with a gun.
Please tell me the last time a British cop was shot.
Please tell me how guns helped protect yourselves from the Las Vegas Shooter.
Please tell me how guns helped protect yourselves from the Orlando Shooter.
“If someone drove through any city in America yelling anti-semitic slurs, they would be arrested. ”
Incorrect. Simply read YWN once a week and you’ll see constant hate in the US. Like a man holding “stop multiplying” signs. And non stop swastika graffitti.
“Kids being beaten up on their way to yeshiva or shul is normal there”
Where are you getting this from? This is factually incorrect.
“There is nowhere in America I would be scared to walk looking like a yid (except maybe Dearborn, Michigan).”
Anywhere in Harlem, parts of Baltimore, Cleveland, how about Neo Nazi Charlottesville. Stop lying to yourself.
“England has an epidemic of people throwing acid at each other.”
Again this simply isn’t true.December 28, 2017 10:05 am at 10:05 am #1438593👑RebYidd23Participant
Need I remind you that the UK is small?December 28, 2017 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #1439059geshmakecholentloverParticipant
Where do you live that’s any better? (it better not be Eretz Yisroel)
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