November 27, 2015 7:06 am at 7:06 am #1114114
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is that what i was taught? no, it’s who ive always been. When someone needs help and has no direction/guidance it is very hard for me to just forget about it and move on to something else.
I don’t think I saw that post. Are you sure it was approved?
If so, it may have been posted between when I requested the
deletion and when it actually happened, while I wasn’t there.
probably, i don’t remember you having a response. My comments were in reference to your having dismissed something based on not being sure if wikipedia’s definition fit, and i felt that this dissmissiveness to something you don’t see is indicitive in and of itself (but wasn’t sure if that was what you did and the thread was closed before I could find out) Also, about that specialist (don’t remember who it was, just remember you saying it happened) he told you something about not moving forward since an early age and i wanted to add that that is typical, as i mentioned above. (not that it is typical not to move forward, it is typical to have the relationship between those two “traits” at such odds.November 27, 2015 3:09 pm at 3:09 pm #1114116zahavasdadParticipant
There are only about 7 different notes (I am not a music expert) so the amount of combinations is finite and small. Nobody can “invent” music anymore. Whatever music you’ve heard someone already thought of itNovember 27, 2015 4:29 pm at 4:29 pm #1114117MenoParticipant
Can someone explain to me what this giraffe thing is all about?
I just read this whole thread and have no idea what it has to do with a giraffe. I feel like Mashiach Agent just threw the whole thread off topicNovember 29, 2015 1:04 am at 1:04 am #1114118JosephParticipant
syag – very often when i picture you i have an image of that rabba sara hurwitz gal from yeshivat maharat . any relation 😉November 29, 2015 1:10 am at 1:10 am #1114119
first of all, no you don’t, you just said that cuz my comment annoyed you 😛
second of all, i don’t know who she is but my guess is that we do not have a single thought, belief or ideal in common. which i don’t think you can say for you and moishele.
third of all, you’re getting slow in your old age, i expected to hear back from you ages ago.November 29, 2015 1:13 am at 1:13 am #1114120
Meno, read all of RebYidd 23’s posts in the thread in order.
DaasYochid, I assume he cites a source, which you,
being (I assume) in possession of the work, could provide.November 29, 2015 1:16 am at 1:16 am #1114121
your having dismissed something based on not being sure if wikipedia’s definition fit
Actually, I wasn’t dismissing it, and said that it did fit
(although as I mentioned there, I might think it fit even if it didn’t).
Gut voch (I don’t want to be late for “Ezk’rah.”)November 29, 2015 1:19 am at 1:19 am #1114122JosephParticipant
Trust me, if I wanted to get back I would’ve answered ages ago. In fact I did respond to your comment shortly after you posted it. And if this was intended to get back you can be sure you wouldn’t have gotten the winky. 😉
i don’t know who she is but my guess is that we do not have a single thought, belief or ideal in common.
But you’ve answered for me here better than I could myself with the crux of your response, even though you thought responding for yourself. (As an aside Moishele is neither satmar nor nk. He is stam a meshugana from Europe.)November 29, 2015 1:28 am at 1:28 am #1114123
i didn’t say “get back”, I said “hear back”November 29, 2015 1:41 am at 1:41 am #1114125
“(As an aside Moishele is neither satmar nor nk. He is stam a meshugana from Europe.)”
Oh, I didn’t realize that. I thought he was just a typical New Yorker >_<November 29, 2015 1:46 am at 1:46 am #1114126profound101Participant
YOu insinuate that music is nothing more than notes and contains nothing of the composer and has little or no power.
Exhibit A: A large majority of Jews (who listen to classical music) who don’t listen to Wagner.
Exhibit B: The importance gedolim through the generations have attached to music, even ones nowadays.
Exhibit C: Music of the Leviim in the Beis Hamikdash which brought people to teshuva.
I know you will nitpick and find something in my answer which is not good enough for you but that is okay. You are free to live your life as you please ultimately, my opinion notwithstanding. If you want to listen to whatever music you want go ahead but though you will deny it the music you listen to will have an effect on you.November 29, 2015 4:10 am at 4:10 am #1114127zahavasdadParticipant
I am sure many jews who like classical music listen to Wagner even if they say they dont. Ride of the Valkyeries is one of the most famous classical music pieces and proably the second most recongizable after bethovan fifthNovember 29, 2015 5:15 am at 5:15 am #1114128
Zahavasdad, that sounds kind of like assuming anyone
who listens to Jewish music listens to “Hava Nagila.”November 29, 2015 5:35 am at 5:35 am #1114129
You insinuate that music is nothing more than notes
I say so flat out, and if you have something else for it to be,
besides notes and percussion, please tell us what else it is.
and contains nothing of the composer
Where’s it meant to contain him? Is the composition a thing
that now exists, independent, somewhere in the universe?
(If there’s a sefer that says so, go ahead and quote it.)
and has little or no power
I didn’t even insinuate that. Music obviously has power, but its ability to,
say, bring people to do teshuva, does not mean that music which
is not experienced as life-changing has any significant ongoing
effect unbeknownst to the listener.
The power of music comes from your response to it – it is not something inherent in the music, as tone-deafness proves.
Exhibit A: A large majority of Jews (who listen to
classical music) who don't listen to Wagner.
This has nothing to do with this. Whether music “contains its
composer” or not, it is identified with its composer and some Jews,
most of whom, in fact, aren’t religious, have an issue with Wagner.
[Ed.: – That last point is heavily disputed].November 29, 2015 10:52 am at 10:52 am #1114130
my guess is that we do not have a single thought, belief or ideal in common. which i don’t think you can say for you and moishele
My guess is that you have many thoughts, ideals, and beliefs in common. I think you both believe in Hashem and His Torah, think it is important to be nice to people, think it is important to keep Shabbos and kashrus, etc. You also surely disagree about important ideals and beliefs.
My point, of course, is that you can’t judge someone negatively because they share some thought, beliefs and ideals with an individual you find despicable.November 29, 2015 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #1114131
congratulations on yet another attempt to “put me in my place” with a not-really-related-to-my-comment point.November 29, 2015 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #1114132
Ch”v, you misjudge my intentions.
It’s a mistaken association which has been made numerous times (not by you) and I just wanted to point it out.
I don’t know why you think it was unrelated to your put down of Joseph.December 1, 2015 3:32 am at 3:32 am #1114133kj chusidParticipant
Many traditional Jewish tunes and songs come from goiyishe sources, the point is not the beat but the words behind itDecember 1, 2015 7:37 am at 7:37 am #1114134
Welcome back. 🙂
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