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so I am sitting on a bus I’m Jerusalem and I notice someone has left a bag on the back seat,
should I get off?
should I call the cops?
should I tell the bus driver?
If I saw a forgotten bag, I’d tell the driver and get off pronto. Better safe than sorry. The driver can call the mishtara.
Are you nuts? Why would you open a ??? ?????
you tell the driver asap, and get off the bus.
I would not have opened it. You notify the driver, get everyone off the bus, and let the professionals handle it. G-d willing, it should ALWAYS be an innocent bag left behind by accident.
At this point the packed lunch should be brought to the address to find the rightful owner.
The lesson is, never assume a package left is a bomb. You may very well be wrong.. lol
The lesson is, always notify the driver. He is supposed to follow protocol and get everyone off the bus. Nothing is supposed to be considered “innocent” and it is not up to anyone on the bus to determine that. It is possible that a cop would bring a dog to sniff it. If the dog opens it and eats it, no harm done.
You’re supposed to report a “chefetz chashud”. BTW, what kind of Israeli would open an unattended bag???
The lesson is, never assume a package left is a bomb. You may very well be wrong.. lol
This is not funny.
If the dog opens it and eats it, no harm done. “
Except for the poor guy who forgot his lunch.
oomis, I guess that will teach him/her to be more careful and less careless next time.
aries- they dont use dogs.
They don’t? What do they use in Israel? They bring in robots immediately?
i was gonna answer ‘take it wiht you and put it in a box for Mashiach if u cant find the owner’ -sorry live in brooklyn, not used to this 😉
aries -What I’ve seen there – is simple. One guy comes with body armor & a helmet. He first screamed at me & e/o else to get away. He then takes a rope with a hook on one end & a reel on the other. He attaches the object to the hook and then walks about 35 -50 feet away, unreeling the rope. He then reels in the object -like s/o reeling in a fish. If it explodes -e/o knows it’s a bomb, if not, then the guy opens it looking for some info to whom it belongs.
A lot of times they shoot the package – yes with a gun – if it explodes, well then it’s obvious it was a bomb. If not, someone’s things are now full of holes.
Honestly folks, if you know where the bus originates and it is in a frum area and you got on in that area and no Arabs or funny looking people were on with you, then you can pretty well rely on the probability that it belongs to a frum person and is not a chafetz chashud.
Last year a bag left at the bus stop at binyanei ha’uma was quickly reported and many people were saved when a makolet owner got almost everybody to move away. Anything can be a bomb.
A relative of mine left a pack of invitations on a bus in Eretz Yisroel, by mistake. They had no stamps, as he was on his way to the post office with them. Somebody found them, put stamps on them, and mailed them all out!
“Honestly folks, if you know where the bus originates and it is in a frum area and you got on in that area and no Arabs or funny looking people were on with you, then you can pretty well rely on the probability that it belongs to a frum person and is not a chafetz chashud.”
Nechama, one simple question. Why? I know that like me, you have seen the images of what can happen CH’V. You probably know people, as I do, who have survived such piguot or possibly you knew people who did not survive. Why take the chance?
I had the opportunity to get to know a man by the name of Steve Averbach. He was one of the principal trainers of the Magav elite Yamam anti-terror unit, and was known as perhaps the best small-arms shot and instructor in Israel. He was riding the bus to French hill on the afternoon of May 18, 2003, and it was half full. He saw a man get on the bus, dressed as a chareidi Jew. No one else noticed anything suspicious, but he saw something amiss as the man got on the bus. He knew there was a Bais Yaakov that had just let out and the next stop would fill up the bus. He drew his weapon and screamed to get down. The bomber blew himself up, killing seven people, but it would have been many more if Steve hadn’t acted. Steve was wounded and left a quadriplegic. I met him less than a year after the bombing, and again the next year. He had decided that as challenging as his life as a quadriplegic was, he wanted to give over his love of eretz yisrael and am yisrael to young Jews from chu’l, and so he met with birthright groups, Aish groups, and others, as much as he could. Steve succumbed to his injuries a couple of years ago in 2010. TN’B.
Why do I tell you this? Simply because not taking chances and assuming everything is OK, and instead taking action, saves lives.
HaLeiVi: So why did you post that under this thread of ‘I just know this is going to go the wrong way’? It actually went the right way!!
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