November 22, 2011 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #600766
Anyone here suffer from IBS? I think I have it and its making my life miserable. Can an employer fire someone due to too much bathroom use at work?
This is a serious post, trolls need not apply.November 23, 2011 1:31 am at 1:31 am #830086
Somebody? Anybody?November 23, 2011 3:14 am at 3:14 am #830087aries2756Participant
You should definitely go to a gastrointerologist and get it checked out. In the mean time you can try Equalactin over the counter for some balance and relief.November 23, 2011 3:44 am at 3:44 am #830088yankdownunderMember
LemonySnicket I think you need to make an appointment with your GP/PCP/Doctor ASAP. let your Doctor examine/diagnose, do not attempt to do so yourself. If you need a referral let that be the decision of your Doctor. Start here refuah sheleimah feel better LemonySnicket.November 23, 2011 3:49 am at 3:49 am #830089I can only tryMember
I’m not a lawyer, but I remember a few years ago there was a lawsuit brought by an IBS sufferer against the NYC Transit Authority.
The employee claimed that the NYCTA had been unreasonable with regards to accommodating this disability/illness.
Google “Simmons v. New York City Transit Authority” for details.November 23, 2011 4:11 am at 4:11 am #8300902qwertyParticipant
Officially probably cant fire you but if your performance is suffering then that could be a good reason. I hope it wont come to that.
Did you see there was a crohns support group gathering just recently?
Search CR from few days ago.November 23, 2011 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #830091
Thank you all for your input. I do have an appt with the doctor coming up but if he doesn’t find a solution I’m going to have quit my job (if they dont fire me) cause it’s too embarrassing to work in public with these conditions.November 23, 2011 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #830092
I have the same condition and know what you feel like. It got to the point where I was embarrassed to be with anyone. It got much much better lately. two points: 1)it is definitely caused by food you eat and therefore can be controlled by extreme eliminating of all such foods. 2)when the gas is really bad, it can be relieved by a BM even when you don’t feel like you need one. I eliminated the following foods and saw dramatic improvement: all legumes, meaning no more cholent, no falafel, no split pea soup, no corn, no humus. Also no more fresh lettuce, no broccoli, no citrus juice, no bananas. It wasn’t easy because that was basically what I was eating on my weight loss diet. I saw a tremendous improvement. For a temporary solution, try activated charcoal pills. It absorbs the gas but you don’t see results instant; maybe in about an hour or two. Google activated charcoal there’s lots of products that absorb odors with various uses. Check it out and hope you feel better soon!November 24, 2011 12:14 am at 12:14 am #830093
snjn- Thank you for the encouragement. I will definitely try to cut back on these foods. At least I know I’m not the only one.November 24, 2011 12:43 am at 12:43 am #830094
You must understand how this works. Cutting back is not enough; you have to avoid it like you are allergic to it. Start with beans and legumes because those are the worst and having IBS means you are sensitive to it. No chick peas (including humus and falafel), no cholent if it contains beans and no soups with any beans even split peas. Start with that and see if you see any difference. Removing fresh lettuce also helped a lot. You see one food at a time, as you remove it, see if it’s any better. Think about what you are eating and see what other food can be the culprit. It not easy but once you know which foods causes it you learn to remove them from your diet completely and then you will iy”h enjoy such tremendous relief from the symptoms.November 24, 2011 1:43 am at 1:43 am #830095
Does that mean I can’t eat chummus forever? Wow my Shabbos meals will be a lot harder! Do you think those charcoal pills will work if I still eat hummus or am I just grasping at straws?November 24, 2011 2:12 am at 2:12 am #830096November 24, 2011 2:43 am at 2:43 am #830097
how about try one week free of hummus or any product containing legumes. See if there is any difference in your body. Then it’s your decision to have some hummus but know it might give you a reaction. For now your goal should be first to identify which foods are the triggers. The only way to do that is by completely eliminating that food and see if it makes a difference. Sometimes there’s an improvement but not completely so that means there’s an additional food you’re eating that’s no good for you. Keep in mind the highly uncomfortably and embarrassing symptoms you are having is coming from the food you eat and it’s up to you to identify and eliminate those foods for your own good. I also gave up some of my favorite foods but the exchange was that I can feel like a healthy person without enough gas in me to blow up all of Gaza. Good luck and I hope it works for you!November 24, 2011 2:45 am at 2:45 am #830098
One more thing: the charcoal pills don’t prevent gas. They absorb existing gas. They also absorb any medications you might be taking, making them ineffective. But they do help relieve the bloating and gas. There are even chair pads made with activated charcoal to absorb odors! Google it.November 24, 2011 3:09 am at 3:09 am #8300992qwertyParticipant
Also, you may want to check out message boards like frumsupport to get some ideas from people who go through it every day.November 24, 2011 3:42 am at 3:42 am #830100aries2756Participant
I wonder if you every kept a food diary? It might help to see what is triggering your problem.November 24, 2011 6:06 am at 6:06 am #830101
“I can feel like a healthy person without enough gas in me to blow up all of Gaza.” lol awesome!
I looked up the chair pad thing. Sounds like a neat idea but I can’t imagine myself shlepping that wherever I go. (It’d look weird sitting on it in mass transit lol)
2qwerty- that’s an interesting site; thanks for the heads up.
aries- That’s an awesome idea! I’ll give that a shot.November 24, 2011 6:41 am at 6:41 am #830102kapustaParticipant
I don’t know much about this but maybe contacting someone like Mrs. Zahler would be helpful? (She’s a nutritionist, they have a line of vitamin supplements etc.) If you want, I can probably get you the number.
HatzlachaNovember 24, 2011 3:48 pm at 3:48 pm #830103
the chair pad isn’t meant to be shlepped all over. How about using it at work and you can pretend it was for comfort and noone has to know what it is really for. You’ve mentioned uncomfortable work situations due to the IBS so this might help in one way.November 25, 2011 5:36 am at 5:36 am #830105
snjn – “1) it is definitely caused by food you eat”
This is Not true (actually Not proven) as you will see from the following article from EmedicineHealth, but diet can help symptoms as you’ll read:
Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS)
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Overview
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Causes
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Symptoms
* When to Seek Medical Care
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Diagnosis
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Treatment
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Self-Care at Home
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Medical Treatment
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Medications
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Diet and Lifestyle Changes
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Prevention
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome Prognosis
* Synonyms and Keywords
* Author and Editor
* Read more on Irritable Bowel Syndrome from Healthwise
* Viewer Comments: Irritable Bowel Syndrome – How Was Diagnosis Established
* Viewer Comments: Irritable Bowel Syndrome – Symptoms
Irritable Bowel Syndrome Overview
Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is a chronic gastrointestinal disorder of unknown cause. Common symptoms include abdominal cramping or pain, bloating and gassiness, and altered bowel habits.
Irritable bowel syndrome has also been called spastic colon, functional bowel disease, and mucous colitis. However, IBS is not a true “colitis.” The term colitis refers to a separate group of conditions known as inflammatory bowel disease (IBD).
Irritable bowel syndrome is not contagious, inherited, or cancerous. It is estimated that 20% of adults in the U.S. have symptoms of IBS. It occurs more often in women than in men, and the onset occurs before the age of 35 in about half of the cases.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome Causes
The cause of irritable bowel syndrome is currently unknown. IBS is thought to result from an interplay of abnormal gastrointestinal (GI) tract movements, increased awareness of normal bodily functions, and a change in the nervous system communication between the brain and the GI tract. Abnormal movements of the colon, whether too fast or too slow, are seen in some, but not all, people who have IBS.
Irritable bowel syndrome has also developed after episodes of gastroenteritis.
It has been suggested that IBS is caused by dietary allergies or food sensitivities, but this has never been proven.
Symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome may worsen during periods of stress or menses, but these factors are unlikely to be the cause that leads to the development of IBS.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome Symptoms
Irritable bowel syndrome affects each person differently. The hallmark of IBS is abdominal discomfort or pain. The following symptoms are also common:
* Abdominal cramping and pain that are relieved with bowel movements
* Alternating periods of diarrhea and constipation
* Change in the stool frequency or consistency
* Gassiness (flatulence)
* Passing mucus from the rectum
* Abdominal distension
The following are NOT symptoms or characteristics of IBS (but should still be brought to the attention of a physician since they may be signs and symptoms of other conditions):
* Blood in stools or urine
* Black or tarry stools
* Vomiting (rare, though may occasionally accompany nausea)
* Pain or diarrhea that interrupts sleep
* Weight loss
When to Seek Medical Care
If a person has any of the symptoms of IBS as discussed previously, or if a person with known IBS has unusual symptoms, a health care practitioner should be consulted. Go to a hospital emergency department if problems are severe and/or come on suddenly.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome Diagnosis
Irritable bowel syndrome can be a very difficult diagnosis to make. IBS is called a diagnosis of exclusion, which means a doctor considers many other alternatives first, performing tests to rule out other medical problems. Some of these tests may include laboratory studies, imaging studies (such as a CT scan or small intestinal X-rays), or a lower GI endoscopy (colonoscopy). An endoscopy is a procedure in which a flexible tube with a tiny camera on one end is passed into the GI tract while the patient is under conscious sedation.
* A combination of history, physical examination, and selected tests are used to help diagnose irritable bowel syndrome.
* No single blood test or x-ray study confirms a diagnosis of IBS.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome Treatment
Irritable Bowel Syndrome Self-Care at Home
Many people may have already modified their diets before seeing a doctor. Temporarily avoiding dairy products may help assess whether symptoms of lactose intolerance are mimicking those of irritable bowel syndrome. Persons who avoid dairy products should exercise and consider taking calcium supplements.
* Certain foods, such as cruciferous vegetables (cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, brussels sprouts) and legumes (beans) may worsen bloating and gassiness.
* Dietary fiber may lessen symptoms.
* Individuals with IBS should drink plenty of water, and avoid soda, which may cause gas and abdominal discomfort.
* Eating smaller meals may lessen the incidence of cramping and diarrhea.
* Low fat and high carbohydrate meals such as pasta, rice, and whole grain breads may help IBS symptoms (unless the affected individual has celiac disease).
Most people with irritable bowel syndrome have problems only occasionally. A few may experience long-lasting problems and require prescription medications.
* A common treatment for IBS is the addition of fiber to the diet. This theoretically expands the inside of the digestive tract, reducing the chance it will spasm as it transmits and digests food. Fiber also promotes regular bowel movements, which helps reduce constipation. Fiber should be added gradually, because it may initially worsen bloating and gassiness.
* Stress may cause IBS “flares.” Doctors may offer specific advice on reducing stress. Regularly eating balanced meals and exercising may help reduce stress and problems associated with irritable bowel syndrome.
* Smoking may worsen symptoms of IBS, which gives smokers another good reason to quit.
* Since many patients with irritable bowel syndrome report food intolerances, a food diary may help identify foods that seem to make IBS worse.
* Antispasmodic medicines, such as dicyclomine (Bemote, Bentyl, Di-Spaz) and hyoscyamine (Levsin, Levbid, NuLev), are sometimes used to treat symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome. Antispasmodic medicines help slow the action of the digestive tract and reduce the chance of spasms. They may have side effects and are not for everyone. Other treatment plans are available, depending on symptoms and condition.
* Antidiarrheal medicines, such as loperamide (Imodium), a kaolin/pectin preparation (Kaopectate), and diphenoxylate/atropine (Lomotil), are sometimes used when diarrhea is a major feature of IBS. Do not take these on a long-term basis without first consulting a doctor.
* Antidepressants may be very effective in smaller doses than those typically used to treat depression. Imipramine (Tofranil), amitriptyline (Elavil), nortriptyline (Pamelor), and desipramine (Norpramin) are some commonly used medicines that may alleviate irritable bowel syndrome symptoms. Some other antidepressants are more commonly prescribed when depression and IBS coexist.
* The following medications are typically reserved for patients with symptoms that do not improve with the above treatments:
o Lubiprostone (Amitiza) is a type of laxative used to treat irritable bowel syndrome with constipation in women who are at least 18 years of age. It is a capsule taken orally, twice a day with food. It is used to relieve stomach pain, bloating, and straining; and produce softer and more frequent bowel movements in people who have chronic idiopathic constipation.
o Alosetron (Lotronex) is a restricted drug approved only for short-term treatment of women with severe, chronic, diarrhea-predominant IBS who have failed to respond to conventional IBS therapy. Fewer than 5% of people with irritable bowel syndrome have the severe form, and only a fraction of people with severe IBS have the diarrhea-predominant type. Alosetron was removed from the United States market but was reintroduced with new restrictions approved by the FDA in 2002. Physicians must be registered with the pharmaceutical manufacturer in order to prescribe the medication. Serious and unpredictable gastrointestinal side effects (including some that resulted in death) were reported in association with its use following its original approval. The safety and efficacy of alosetron has not been sufficiently studied in men; therefore, the FDA has not approved the drug for treatment of IBS in men.
o Tegaserod (Zelnorm) was a medication used to treat IBS but was removed from the market in 2008 due to increased risk of heart attack, stroke, and ischemic colitis.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome Diet and Lifestyle Changes
Diet and lifestyle changes are important in decreasing the frequency and severity of IBS symptoms.
The first thing your doctor may suggest is to keep a food diary. This will help you figure out foods that trigger your symptoms.
* Limit foods that contain ingredients that can stimulate the intestines and cause diarrhea, such as:
o Dairy products
o Fatty foods
o Foods high in sugar
o Artificial sweeteners (sorbitol and xylitol)
* Some vegetables (cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, brussels sprouts) and legumes (beans) may worsen bloating and gassiness and should be avoided.
* Dietary fiber may lessen symptoms of constipation.
* Drink plenty of water, and avoid carbonated drinks such as soda, which may cause gas and discomfort.
* Eat smaller meals and eat slowly to help reduce cramping and diarrhea.
* Low fat, high carbohydrate meals such as pasta, rice, and whole-grain breads may help (unless you have celiac disease).
In addition to dietary changes, there are some healthy habits that may also help reduce IBS symptoms.
* Maintain good physical fitness to improve bowel function and help reduce stress.
* Stop smoking for overall good health.
* Avoid coffee and chewing gum.
* Reducing or eliminating alcohol consumption may help.
* Stress management can help prevent or ease IBS symptoms.
o Use relaxation techniques: deep breathing, visualization, yoga
o Do things you find enjoyable: talk to friends, read, listen to music
Irritable Bowel Syndrome Prevention
Follow the diet and lifestyle recommendations as outlined above, and as discussed with your physician. Avoiding triggers is the best way to prevent symptoms of IBS.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome Prognosis
Because irritable bowel syndrome is a chronic (long-term) disease, symptoms usually return from time to time. This may be influenced by factors such as stress, diet, or other environmental causes. No known treatment cures IBS. Multiple factors may play a role in aggravating IBS, so it may be difficult to predict which may make IBS worse for a particular person. Establishing a good relationship with a doctor may help alleviate concerns over symptoms and allow rapid recognition of changing or worsening symptoms.November 25, 2011 6:45 am at 6:45 am #830106HummingbirdParticipant
Lemonysnicket & snjn I share in your pain & difficulty in dealing w/ IBS since I can relate to the issues that you both talk about here. But, can you please tell me what you’re supposed to do when you feel a real low of energy & also weakness & fatigue after having a long & difficult session in the bathrm due to a combination of major constipation & looseness in your bm? I have such a hard time in the mornings which also causes me to be delayed in getting in to my job. Thank goodness that I was off from work today, cause I don’t know how I would’ve handled that!! I felt so miserable a whole day!!November 25, 2011 6:46 am at 6:46 am #830107
Kapusta- Cool, how can I contact her?
Health- Thanks for that link. Really helpful info!November 25, 2011 7:27 am at 7:27 am #830108
Hummingbird- Energy wise I usually have a very difficult time waking up in the mornings but I’m not sure if that’s because of IBS. I signed up for they gym recently as that’s supposed to relieve stress and energize the body more. I also bought some probiotics which are supposed to be really good for gas and bloating.
I usually have to wake up at least 3 hours before work cause I’m in the bathroom for at least an hour every morning (and even then I barely make it to work on time) I was so glad I was off today as well cause I was able to sleep a little late and not have to panic like I do every morning. I know the miserable feeling; the hardest part is concentrating at work when my stomach feels like it’ll explode. When I’m at home I usually don’t feel as bad cause I feel more relaxed.November 25, 2011 7:51 am at 7:51 am #830109
LS -“Kapusta- Cool, how can I contact her?”
I found their web site -Zahlers.com.
On the bottom of the page there is something that says Ask -you can ask your question(s) online.
After reading your posts -if I were you I definitely consider taking meds by your doctor. There might even be other meds not mentioned in the article.
You have the ability to get this under control, but you will need to do everything possible to help yourself. Don’t limit yourself to a little better. With doing everything possible you will be able to lead a normal life.November 25, 2011 8:18 am at 8:18 am #830110yankdownunderMember
Lemony I think you need to see a Holistic Physician that knows about Diet and Nutrition as well ASAP. I think IBS is diet related to the health state of the Colon like Colitis, Diverticulitis… I think such a Holistic Doctor could help you immensely. Unfortunately I do not the cost involved, and I do not if financially if you could afford to do this. Health begins in the Gut, and this is my gut reaction to the state of your health. Feel better Lemony have a good Shabbos.November 25, 2011 8:36 am at 8:36 am #830111
okay, let me rephrase. The IBS is not caused by food but for an individual with IBS it’s definitely food that triggers the symptoms and elimination of those foods improves the symptoms a lot. This has been told to me by my gastroenterologist and I found it to be true in practice as well. So you are right, technically the syndrome isn’t caused by food but the symptoms can most definitely be controlled by food.November 25, 2011 11:49 am at 11:49 am #830112kapustaParticipant
The number on their fb page is 877 275 9245. Looks like they also have an “askzahler” section on their website with a 24 response time. I know she used to take questions during certain hours, if you call they can probably tell you when. If you’re in Brooklyn, you may be able to set up a real consultation.
HatzlachaNovember 25, 2011 2:22 pm at 2:22 pm #8301131818Participant
there are physicians that feel that bacterial overgrowth is one of the main issues in IBS.
There is an antibiotic called Rifaximin that has given some people significant relief.
It is not absorbed into your body. Stays in intestine.
It is worth your while to find out this medicine.
It has provided a “cure” to a close family member.November 25, 2011 3:09 pm at 3:09 pm #830114bezalelParticipant
Can an employer fire someone due to too much bathroom use at work?
An employer can fire an employee for almost any reason (the exceptions are generally in cases of discrimination). If you have a doctor’s diagnosis of a particular illness you can get some legal protection from being discriminated against.November 25, 2011 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #830115oomisParticipant
get to a good gastro doc, examine your diet (you could be allergic to something that is causing this, or lactose intolerant, even have celiac disease). In any event, this is NOT a trivial thing. It can get seriously worse, chas v’sholom, and you want to address the issue now. Hatzlacha rabba.November 27, 2011 4:42 am at 4:42 am #830116
1818 -“there are physicians that feel that bacterial overgrowth is one of the main issues in IBS.”
Yes, this is one of the prevailing theories out there – amongst the movement theory of too fast or slow & too strong or weak. The small intestine is supposed to be relatively bacterial free -somehow bacteria is able to set up home there -so it’s not really “overgrowth”, just growth.
“There is an antibiotic called Rifaximin that has given some people significant relief.”
This is considered experimental -so you have to find a Doc who is treating with this.
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