November 7, 2011 3:58 am at 3:58 am #600380
So’s I’m at starbucks, and I’ve been here for about 6 and a half hours, and I’m up to my 6th or so refill.
I go up to the guy, and ask for a refill.
He asks me if my last one was less than an hour ago. Because refills have to be within the hour.
Now, of course they don’t. There is no such rule. He made it up, or his manager did.
I could have said that.
But what’s the point.
I said, “I don’t know; I haven’t been keeping track. I’ve just been sitting there in the corner and drinking.”
So, he said, as long as I know for next time, and gave me my refill.
So who won? Me. I got my blazing coffee.November 7, 2011 4:05 am at 4:05 am #935636✡onegoal™Participant
You won and you were right, but what is with you and sitting in Starbucks for extended periods of time?November 7, 2011 4:23 am at 4:23 am #935637November 7, 2011 5:06 am at 5:06 am #935638MindOverChatterParticipant
So who won? Me. I got my blazing coffee.
I respectfully disagree. He wanted to point out to you that it was time you go. Which IMHO, he’d done in an extremely sophisticated and clever way. So who won? He did. He got you to blush. And you left soon thereafter. Don’t deny it, I was the guy at the counter.
Now, what the blazes were you doing there for six hours?November 7, 2011 5:11 am at 5:11 am #935639real-briskerMember
kapusta – Good Call; LOL!November 7, 2011 6:34 am at 6:34 am #935640am yisrael chaiParticipant
pba does a lot of brain exercises in Starbucks AND gives them tons of free advertising here…your coffee should be on the house!November 7, 2011 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm #935641MoodcheDoovidMember
Starbucks has treif danishes and they wash the coffee stuff with the treif dishes.November 7, 2011 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #935642soliekMember
ive been spending a lot of time in stabucks lately…and one thing i HATE…other than their coffee…is the music they blast 30 minutes before closingNovember 8, 2011 12:10 am at 12:10 am #935643charlie brownMember
gimme a break, pba! you didn’t go for another blazing refill 61 minutes after that conversation?!?March 8, 2013 3:45 am at 3:45 am #935644
Tonight I was somewhere using a groupon, and they tried to not give me everything I was entitled to. I don’t want to give specific details.
So I insisted, and they brought the manager. And I insisted again, and she wasn’t happy at me. Then she finally said that I’m wrong, but if I really really insist, then they’ll give it to me.
So I smiled broadly and genuinely said, “thank you so much!”March 8, 2013 4:18 am at 4:18 am #935645oomisParticipant
Sometimes we have to be really insistent with service industries, in order to get what we deserve. My son had a recent run-in with T-Mobile, regarding a HUGE bill that he never should have received. He had arrangements with T-Mobile wherein they were comping him for the entire month’s bill, because he is a very good customer, and they wanted to keep him. He was on the phone with them making sure he understood the deal correctly (all these calls are taped by T-Mobile, btw), and after being assured and reassured several times that he would have a zero balance for the month, no matter how many calls were made, he agreed to the terms.
Came the bill, and he sees a whopping $800 tab on it. After we revived him (just kidding), he got on the phone with them, and they basically denied everything that they had discussed with him,, then they tried to get him to accept a lesser amount to be paid to them. He was on with three or four managers, not one of whom knew what the others were saying or doing. He got all their names, but it made no difference in the final analysis.
So he wrote a LONG e-mail explaining the circumstances of the freebie he was getting, and exactly when and how the discussion to place with their reps. He told them to check their own recordings. They said they would get bacl to him. They did, and quite sheepishly, I would add. His bill is now a zero balance.March 8, 2013 4:24 am at 4:24 am #935646sharpMember
In a situation like this it helps to wear a cap. You get a better chance at winning 😉
I highly recommend sitting in Starbucks. It’s conducive to inspiration. and the longer you sit there, the more inspiration you get. Lol. Wish I had the time. LolMarch 8, 2013 5:20 am at 5:20 am #935647playtimeMember
popa_bar_abba, next time get a coffee every half hour.March 8, 2013 7:00 am at 7:00 am #935648mddMember
PBA, I hope you did not make Chilul HaShem by being overly demanding etc.March 8, 2013 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm #935649
PBA, I hope you did not make Chilul HaShem by being overly demanding etc.
I made a kiddush Hashem by not being a pushover.March 8, 2013 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #935650MDGParticipant
So how does perpetuating the stereotype of Jews being cheap, greedy, and combative make a kiddush Hashem?March 8, 2013 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #935651🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
MDG +1March 8, 2013 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #935652
So how does perpetuating the stereotype of Jews being cheap, greedy, and combative make a kiddush Hashem?
Would a stereotype of being sheep be better?March 8, 2013 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #935653shnitzyMember
That’s a given.March 8, 2013 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #935654MDGParticipant
Be a mentch. Being mevater is not being a sheep. Besides which, it seems from your story that you already has a few refills in the six hours.
Syag Lchochma – your name says it all 🙂March 8, 2013 7:02 pm at 7:02 pm #935655shnitzyMember
I meant the title.
It’s not “being mevater” if it’s coming to you.Then, it’s teaching them to be dishonest which will result in them cheating other customers.March 8, 2013 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #935656yytzParticipant
Doesn’t Starbucks always have music playing, including women singing? Or are their leniencies that can be relied upon in such a situation?March 8, 2013 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #935657🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipant
ImprovEverywhere did the best shtick in Starbucks… they brought wi-fi enabled desktops, set them up and kept drinking coffee while working… anyone else here watched it?March 8, 2013 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #935658SecularFrummyMember
Winning over being right is what got Yiddishkeit to where it is today.March 10, 2013 7:15 am at 7:15 am #935660sharpMember
No idea. I don’t think so. (first question)March 10, 2013 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #935661rebdonielMember
The paranoia over Starbucks is unfounded.
PBA and I may not agree on everything, but he is a pious Jew and very sincere and ehrliche.
I’ve read the CRC reports on Starbuck’s, and I think one can logically conclude that the coffee is acceptable, especially since:
a) Only two utensils in Starbucks ever come into contact with non-kosher. Therefore, we can rely that any non-kosher is nullified in the cleaning process.
c) The non-kosher sandwiches are a davar gush (a hard item). However, many still consider it a kli sheini which does not transfer taste.
d) Soap is used in the cleaning process which would allows one to rely on Nosein Taam Lifgam (The non-kosher taste is rendered inedible by the soap so it does not transfer.)
f) All the equipment is sanitized after being cleaned.March 10, 2013 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #935662HealthParticipant
Mr. Doniel – I’m not a Poisek, but the Poiskim of the CRC and Rabbi Heineiman say clearly that this Shtickle Torah you wrote is only acc. to some – others hold Not like this. So R’ Heineiman holds you can only be Someiach on this B’dieved, not L’chatchilla.March 10, 2013 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #935663squeakParticipant
PBA and I may not agree on everything, but if he’s makil then I’m on board
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