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Is Trump less antisemitic than me, because he’s the least antisemitic person there is?
Trump’s Jewish-friendly credentials go back many decades, long before he ever ran for office or had a vested interest in proving himself to the public. They are far more extensive than any recent president.
As far as the OP, he used that merely as a figure of speech.
It is a very childish figure of speech, and believe me, no one knows more about childishness than I do.
RY: Someone forgot about me.
It’s his style of talking. It’s not presidential, but neither is he.
Yes and he is also more respectful of women than you.
“There’s nobody that has more respect for women than I do,”
How respectful of men is he?
110% easily at least
He’s the manliest man he knows and he respects himself completely.
Joseph: ask Turx if he felt he was being respected by Trump.
Mammale Turx actually said he wasn’t disrespected by Trump and went on to say almost everything Joseph wrote in that post.
I think the most significant problem with what he did was undermine the work the Jewish community is already doing on the issue. The proper people to take action are the askanim in our community who work day in and day out to ensure our safety and wellbeing. By asking an out of place, poorly phrased, insulting question, Turx made it much more difficult for those who can actually have an impact to take action.
Ha! Really? How did he ask an insulting question? From the transcript, all he did was ask Trump about how he would be handling the increase in antisemitic threats that have gone up since he took office.
Why not ask? Trump has a plan for everything right? He’s going to fix the murder rate. Illegal immigration. Economy. Whatever.
So how is he going to fix this?
AND surprise… Trump didn’t listen to the question. He got defensive and made a big scene. Totally off topic.
Of course now he gets Jews to blame Turx. Really? Do you think that if another Jew asked the question more eloquently Trump would get the point?
His behavior is abusive and he is a bully —-AKA Irrational.
Leave the reporter alone. Don’t let Trump win here by getting Jews to blame the guy who only spoke some truth.
“By asking an out of place, poorly phrased, insulting question,”
It was not out of place nor insulting (it was however poorly worded)
the press conference covered many topics Trump with his rambling nonsensical responses (more than usual) expanded it to cover many more (including his electoral victory, war with russia, nuclear holocaust)
Trump asked for an esy question and he got one:
what do you think of the rise of antisemitism?
I oppose it. there easy done
but of course Trump cant handle that.
Turx is a person and a yid just like anyone else, and it is just as assur and cruel to speak loshon hora about him as it is anyone else.
Thank you!
Thank you (and Ubiquitin) for sticking up for my brother! (as in “acheinu kol bais Yisrael”)
Ubiq -“what do you think of the rise of antisemitism?
I oppose it. there easy done
but of course Trump cant handle that”
You’re right. He couldn’t handle it.
But I’d rather have a president that can’t handle this, but is able to handle the terrorist threats.
Your idol Obama, couldn’t handle all the terrorism that occurred here and abroad!
The frightening thing is that he already handled dealing with terrorism by saying that if anything happens chas v’shalom then it will be the judges faults.
Seriously he set himself up for not taking any credit if something happens and surely he will find a way to shrug off responsibility even if the source of terror isn’t someone from the outside.
You’re giving him a lot of credit Health.
Also the point is that he is not doing anything to help stop the rise in antisemitism. Is he?
Health
If a president cant handle an easy question like that, it is doubtful that he can handle terrorism. Unless of course by handle you mean ignore as he did after the shooting in a mosque in Quebec.
As for Obama, why is he my idol? did the supreme court tell you that?
LB -“The frightening thing is that he already handled dealing with terrorism by saying that if anything happens chas v’shalom then it will be the judges faults.”
He’s right!
“Seriously he set himself up for not taking any credit if something happens and surely he will find a way to shrug off responsibility even if the source of terror isn’t someone from the outside.
You’re giving him a lot of credit Health.”
That’s your biased opinion!
“Also the point is that he is not doing anything to help stop the rise in antisemitism. Is he?”
It’s not his issue. Go ask the governors’ of the states in where that’s occuring!
Ubiq -“Unless of course by handle you mean ignore as he did after the shooting in a mosque in Quebec.”
Well I didn’t know Quebec was part of the United States!
“As for Obama, why is he my idol?”
What do you mean? Don’t you idolize all liberals?!?
But he says America first. People hear that and associate “White people” first.
Jews today are white until White is a thing in itself.
There were swastikas all over NY subways recently. I don’t know how frequent this is but the president’s silence in antisemitism is taken as support.
He had a chance to say something against it and instead spoke against Jews.
It’s not like his words and behavior have no affect on the states and their success at mitigating the threats.
If the big guy in office says that it’s okay then that may override local govt efforts.
A gangbanger wrote graffiti on a building near me and the president hasn’t spoken out against that either. I guess he must support graffiti.
Sorry I meant that his silence on antisemitism when given the chance to condemn it “in general” fosters an environment where it’s easier for people to think that it’s okay and they can get away with hate crimes (such as swastika graffitti and beating up minorities). We saw that with violence at his rallies too.
People aren’t getting the message that something is wrong or criminal. Imho it’s more like they feel they have the right to defend their country by acting this way. Trump is a good role model.
Words and behavior. Or words vs behavior.
Health
“Well I didn’t know Quebec was part of the United States!”
It isnt, but it is “abroad”
Remember when you said “Your idol Obama, couldn’t handle all the terrorism that occurred here and abroad”? (it wasnt that long ago, see here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/if-im-not-antisemitic#post-647794)
“What do you mean? Don’t you idolize all liberals?!?”
nope, just becasue you take you drink all that is fed to you by Rush Limbaugh doenst mean all people are that way. Most people can think for themselves, and while I agree with Obama on many things, that doesnt mean I agree with him on all things, and it certainly doesnt mean I idolize him
If you ask him about that graffiti and he speaks against you instead of the graffiti, that could be taken as support for graffiti.
Health, I know trying to convince you of the obvious is like spitting into the wind, but here goes. Trump rails against Islamic terror all over the world, including places that didn’t even have it (e.g. Sweden). But when an Islamophobe massacres worshippers in a mosque in Canada, he doesn’t let out a peep.
LB -“But he says America first. People hear that and associate “White people” first.”
They’ll do anything to knock President Trump.
“There were swastikas all over NY subways recently. I don’t know how frequent this is but the president’s silence in antisemitism is taken as support.
He had a chance to say something against it and instead spoke against Jews.”
It’s not his job! Speak to Cuomo and D’Blasio.
“It’s not like his words and behavior have no affect on the states and their success at mitigating the threats.”
I have no idea what you’re talking about!
Ubiq & YY-“It isnt, but it is “abroad”
Remember when you said “Your idol Obama, couldn’t handle all the terrorism that occurred here and abroad”? (it wasnt that long ago, see here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/if-im-not-antisemitic#post-647794)
Health, I know trying to convince you of the obvious is like spitting into the wind, but here goes. Trump rails against Islamic terror all over the world, including places that didn’t even have it (e.g. Sweden). But when an Islamophobe massacres worshippers in a mosque in Canada, he doesn’t let out a peep.”
To you liberals – who said it was terrorism, even though it was a terrorist act?!?
I think it was the act of a crazy person!
But don’t let up any chance to demonize our President!
Health
Got it. Because trump is to busy to comment on a terrorist act that isn’t terrorism.
What with all his important comments regarding snl and the terrible events in sweden tthe night before his nuremberg rally. who has time for a few dead people that aren’t white
RY – +1
Trump is an idiot. All the rest is commentary.
Health!, in the words of Ronald Reagan, “There you go again.” Anyone who criticizes your boy Trump is a liberal. The Koch brothers and John McCain must be liberals.
Ubiq-“Got it. Because trump is to busy to comment on a terrorist act that isn’t terrorism.
What with all his important comments regarding snl and the terrible events in sweden tthe night before his nuremberg rally. who has time for a few dead people that aren’t white”
It’s unfortunate that people like you can see no good in conservative people like President Trump.
Btw, he doesn’t comment on things that are obviously bad!
Maybe he should name all the victims of homicide in Chicago everyday?!?
YY -“Anyone who criticizes your boy Trump is a liberal. The Koch brothers and John McCain must be liberals.”
First of all, he’s not “my boy”!
Didn’t they teach you in Yeshiva to have some respect, if you went to Yeshiva?!?
IDK who Koch bros are, but McCain is definitely liberal!
see no good in conservative people like President Trump.”
more lies. First of all Trump isnt a conservative.
Second of all I do see some good, for example his pick of niki Haley for UN
“Btw, he doesn’t comment on things that are obviously bad!”
Wanna bet?…
“Maybe he should name all the victims of homicide in Chicago everyday?!?”
Lol he HAS commented on Chicago homicide! I guess it isnt “obviously bad”
“but McCain is definitely liberal!” Mcain is liberal and Trump is conservative? What definition are you using?
BTW read Bret Stephens recent speech regarding Trump OR is he a liberal too?
Trump is not your boy but someone who disagrees with you must idolize all liberals?
Ubiq -“more lies. First of all Trump isnt a conservative.”
It’s all relative. He’s more conservative than a lot of posters here!
“Lol he HAS commented on Chicago homicide! I guess it isnt “obviously bad””
Your posts are getting more manipulative by the minute!
I actually wrote this:
“Maybe he should name all the victims of homicide in Chicago EVERYDAY?!?”
“Maybe he should name all the victims of homicide in Chicago EVERYDAY”
To you that is the same as denouncing a terror attack?
Trump doesn’t wear those ear pieces where someone else tells him what to say.
I wonder if past presidents did.
For what it’s worth, at least Ivanka denounced anti-Semitism. It would have had more import if it came from Trump himself.
And I don’t know what’s going on in Malmo, Sweden as if today, but a few years ago Jews were fleeing the city because of Muslim/immigrant anti-Semitism.
If anyone has more up to date info. regarding Malmo, please enlighten us, but it’s worth a mention regardless for all those that think taking in refugees is without consequences. Especially for us Yidden who want to be altruistic, we have to face facts that a large percentage of these refugees are anti-Semitic because their culture condones it.
YY -“Health! I show respect to those who have earned it. I deliberately called Trump a boy because he acts like a spoiled third grader.”
You’re not the authority who decides who gets respect or not!
The people in this country are, because they elected him commander and chief.
I even gave respect to Clinton, even though he was impeached!
Where did you go to school? Because you never were taught basic manners!
Ubiq -“To you that is the same as denouncing a terror attack?”
Of course not! But with your obsession to putting down our president, you deliberately forgot one major difference!
Our president is responsible for American lives, not Canadian lives!
So when Chicago and it’s State are not doing their job, it becomes his responsibility!
for the record Trump did denounce antisemitism today.
Health
People have to earn respect. Calling Trump a “third grader” is insulting to third graders. If I had a third grader who treated people the way Trump does I would smack him upside the head (not literally, but thats beside the point). that he tricked millions to vote for him doesnt change that one bit.
“Our president is responsible for American lives, not Canadian lives!”
I responded to that point already of course you ignored it as you always do and as Trump does when pointed out over and over how wrong almost everything he says is)
Here is a reminder. YOU criticised Obama that he “couldn’t handle all the terrorism that occurred here and abroad!”
IT seems earlier you viewed the job of President as handling Terrorism that occurs abroad. And I dont disagree. With Great power comes great responsibility.
“But with your obsession to putting down our president…”
I will tell you why I dislike Trump (and his vehement supporters) so much
Note: Not you, I am quite fond of you. our conversations have been quite eye opening for me and further help me understand the mindset of Trump and his supporters
I will elaborate with an example from Bret Stephens ( A conservative) who said the following recently at a Daniel PEarl memorial lecture:
“Consider this recent exchange [Trump]
To which the president replies:
We are not a nation of logicians.
… The president is responding to a claim of fact not by denying the fact, but by denying the claim that facts are supposed to have on an argument.
This is my problem with Trump. Differences of opinion are critical to a democracy. Many dictatrorships have “elections” but with one candidate to choose from these are meaningless. While on most points I side with Democrats there are many many issues I side with Republicans. and that is healthy. Changing power every few years is a sign of a healthy democracy. Disagreement is good.
However in order to have a difference of opinion we need to agree on baseline facts.
for example there is a problem of mass shootings in the US. now soem feel more gun restrictions will help some feel arming more citizens will help. fine that is healthy. but if one where to argue that we have a lower mass shooting rate than other countries the discussion cant even begin.
Trump ran (and won!) a campaign based on blatant falshoods. starting with his early claim of Mexico sending rapists and murderers etc… If we cant agree that that isnt true how can we ever solve anything.
(While Hillary was no honest abe, the foundations of here campaign weren’t lies)
Until Trump starts telling the truth it is critical to call him out, not to be numbed by his blatant disregard.
As Stephens says in that same speech
Thanks Ubiq for bringing it to our attention.
The election was for the position of president, not for respect. Withholding respect is a First Amendment right!
Health!, I’m certainly the authority who decides whom I respect. Your boy certainly didn’t respect his predecessor.
If schools are supposed to teach manners, it seems that the Kew Forest School and the New York Military Academy failed miserably in teaching manners to their most famous student. As for me, I was taught manners at home.
for the record Trump did denounce antisemitism today.
Health
People have to earn respect. Calling Trump a “third grader” is insulting to third graders. If I had a third grader who treated people the way Trump does I would smack him upside the head (not literally, but thats beside the point). that he tricked millions to vote for him doesnt change that one bit.
“Our president is responsible for American lives, not Canadian lives!”
I responded to that point already of course you ignored it as you always do and as Trump does when pointed out over and over how wrong almost everything he says is)
Here is a reminder. YOU criticised Obama that he “couldn’t handle all the terrorism that occurred here and abroad!”
IT seems earlier you viewed the job of President as handling Terrorism that occurs abroad. And I dont disagree. With Great power comes great responsibility.
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