If you don't have a beard you're a goy

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    MameshhTov98
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    Pshitoh no?

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    #1123041
    Holala
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    A lot of places it’s considered a sheigets

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    righttheship
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    There is a story where Mike Tress cut the line to speak with the satmar rebbe. The chasidim outside asked the rebbe who is this person that can cut the line, he doesn’t even have a beard. The rebbe answered by him when he goes to shamayim they will ask yid yid where’s you beard. But By you they will ask beard beard where’s your yid.

    You DON’T judge someone by his beard, you judge someone based on his actions.

    #1123043
    oyyoyyoy
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    not a goy, a baal mum

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    Joseph
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    #1123045
    flatbusher
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    yoshke had a beard, so do the muslim madmen

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    Joseph
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    They also wear a shirt. Hopefully you don’t wear a shirt since they do.

    #1123047
    ubiquitin
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    Jospeh

    They also give presents on their holidays. Hopefully you don’t give presents since they do.

    oh wait

    Lol Youre funny

    #1123048
    theprof1
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    The story with Mike Tress is true but you still won’t be allowed to daven at the omud without a beard and mikva first.

    #1123049
    CTLAWYER
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    Some of us make our living in the general population and a beard may be detrimental to one’s success.

    It is not considered appropriate in the conservative courtrooms here in New England. In fact about a year ago I commented that when I first started practicing law, a senior judge took me aside and told me that only the Judge wears black in the courtroom. So I wear Midnight Blue or extremely dark grey suits.

    I have found that the younger generation (under 45) can get away with a neatly trimmed beard and my eldest son does wear one in his practice. As for me, a beard will wit until I am fully retired.

    #1123050
    Joseph
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    You’re going to let the goyim dictate your appearance as looking too Jewish, thus “not appropriate”?

    Yarmulkas were also considered inappropriate to wear in most American courtrooms at one time.

    #1123051
    Joseph
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    And to preempt the answer, make no mistake about it, beards being considered inappropriate by Western Christians had everything to do with its perceived Jewishness.

    Did you know that in sign language the sign for “Jew” is stroking a beard?

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    👑RebYidd23
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    If it hasn’t been fully proved before, this is proof women aren’t Jewish.

    #1123053
    CTLAWYER
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    Joseph………..

    It was a Jewish senior judge who gave the clothing color advice.

    The question of the beard is not religion related. Non-Jewish attorneys of my generation don’t wear them either.

    In fact, I tell non-Jewish clients who are going to testify before a jury to get rid of their beards. Studies have shown that potential jurors give less credence to testimony of bearded men. They think a clean shaven man has less to hide.

    Wearing a yarmulka was never an issue in law school or in court (40 years experience).

    Some jurisdictions are more progressive than others. I know female attorneys that will wear a pant suit in NY courts, that always wear a below the knee skirt and dark stockings/tights here in conservative New England.

    My maternal side is Yekkah. To quote my late maternal grandfather Z”L, ‘the bigger the beard, the bigger the faker.’ Unfortunately, this attitude is often expressed by those involved in trials, why should I jeopardize my livelihood or my clients’ interests when an electric shaver is permitted by halacha?

    My lack of beard hasn’t hurt my children’s shidduchim. I have 3 married and 1 engaged. Two fathers-in law have beards, one not. The engaged daughter’s father-in-law to be is a surgeon who does not wear a beard.

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    WolfishMusings
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    So, I guess I’m a goy.

    The Wolf

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    ubiquitin
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    “make no mistake about it, beards being considered inappropriate by Western Christians had everything to do with its perceived Jewishness.”

    that explains why Santa claus and Abrhamn Linclon are so often mistaken for being Jewish

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    Health
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    CTLawyer -“To quote my late maternal grandfather Z”L, ‘the bigger the beard, the bigger the faker”

    I like this line! I live in Lakewood & some people think that the bigger the beard, the more religious you are.

    When I was a Bochur, I didn’t have a beard, now I have a trimmed one. Anyways, a few times people have told me – “I look like a woman.” That’s because I didn’t have a beard!

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    theprof1
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    Did you all know that Hashem decided that Klal Yisroel should exist as 12 basically separate nations when we entered Canaan. It wasn’t until hundreds of years later that the Jewish nation united came into being. Hashem sent us all over the world. Seemingly fragmented, but we weren’t. We were united in Torah. But we still have what the Princes of Israel did at the chanukas ha’mishkon. They brought the same korbonos, but all had different reasons. We can and are one nation even if we seem to have different ways. A Yid is a Yid because he believes and practices Torah. How many non-bearded Jews learn Daf Yomi every day on the LIRR? How many bearded Jews daven in 15 minutes and run off to do business? Beard beard where is your Yid?

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    akivachaim
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    Gedolei yisroel, whether litvish, chassidish, sephardic, all have untrimmed beards. Must be something to it.

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    MDG
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    “If you don’t have a beard you’re a goy”

    Unfortunately, some are more concerned about outside appearances rather than talking with kedusha.

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    WolfishMusings
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    Gedolei yisroel, whether litvish, chassidish, sephardic, all have untrimmed beards. Must be something to it.

    Perhaps, perhaps not. But even if I grant the point, there is a vast gulf because “it’s good to do because the gedolim did it” and “you’re a goy.”

    The Wolf

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    Daniell11
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    Many gedolei hador say don’t judge a book by its cover many people who look like a goy are actually talmidei chachomim in disguise.

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    👑RebYidd23
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    I’m worried. My sister doesn’t have a beard.

    #1123063
    zahavasdad
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    The Kaliver Rebbe was subject to brutal experiments by the Nazis and cannot grow a beard because of it. Most people know this, but there are lots of people who cannot grow a beard for various reasons and they are not broadcast

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    apushatayid
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    James Harden.

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    CTLAWYER
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    Today’s YWN featires a photo essay on Day 1 of Aguda’s Winter Yarchei Kallah. Many of the attendees (adult males) photographed have no beards

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Photoshop

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    Hashemisreading
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    Goyim

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    apushatayid
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    “Many of the attendees (adult males) photographed have no beards”

    One even has a blue shirt. I think he has a beard though. He might OTD though.

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