December 8, 2010 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm #990024
iF i wUz a ModoRAter I Would not let peeple hOo cant punktuate And can SpEl any thinG and Say Monis stuf B on yWN crDecember 8, 2010 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #990026
Sorry if it’s a little off topic but how do you become a moderator and what are the guidelines?December 8, 2010 7:27 pm at 7:27 pm #990028
I’d say that this thread is no longer so helpful. I personally don’t believe that someone’s spoken lashon hara unless I’ve heard (seen) it.December 8, 2010 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #990029
onegoal- wow! What a change in spelling between your first and second post! Amazing! Who was your spelling teacher 🙂
aries- you absolutely can’t leave- the word chain thread needs you!!!December 8, 2010 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #990030YW Moderator-80Member
generally you need to be born into a Moderator family. thats usually the only way youll be able to get into the union.
youll need an IQ of at least 140.
you have to go through vigorous basic training and myriad advanced physical and mental courses at an accredited Moderator University before you can even apply for a position. only about 5% of interested parties make it this far.December 8, 2010 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #990031WolfishMusingsParticipant
Sorry if it’s a little off topic but how do you become a moderator and what are the guidelines?
You become a moderator because you are born to a Mommy moderator and a Daddy moderator. 🙂
EDIT: FTR, I typed this before I saw your response. 🙂December 8, 2010 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #99003210-LuchosParticipant
if i was a moderator i would
1. work quicker
2. work more
3. encourage more people to join
4. i would not allow people who claim to be myfriend despite how helpful they feel they are especially when they feel they are always so right to post in the same topic it makes it seem like thechevra is all on one side when it is really just one user
lets make this a better coffee roomDecember 8, 2010 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #990033
If i were the moderator- i would make sure older posts get put in before newer ones (ahem!, hint hint)December 8, 2010 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #990034
There is another way also, but I’ve been sworn to secrecy.December 8, 2010 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #990035
Lol. I made it on the IQ part. Where do I go to fill out an application?December 8, 2010 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #990036
Moderator Yichus!December 8, 2010 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #990037
That’s funny, you don’t look moderatorish.December 8, 2010 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #990038
10Luchos- is that you Aries? Welcome back!December 8, 2010 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #990039
10 Luchos – I got it, and before the clue phone rang. I’m so proud of myself.December 8, 2010 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #990040blueberrymuffinParticipant
The Goq – You hit the nail on the head! It is the most annoying thing to always have to scroll back up a (sometimes!) 70-post page in order to get back to the CR!!!December 8, 2010 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #990041
Do the mods plan to do anything about it long term? I’d be interested to know, because it has bothered me for a very long time.December 8, 2010 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm #990042YW Moderator-80Member
the mods are mods not geeksDecember 8, 2010 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm #990043
Isn’t 10 – Luchos = 0?
What does your user name mean? I’m sure you are not a zero. Unless we’re talking sizes, which I never do.December 8, 2010 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #990044
squeak i beg to differ. 10 minus luchos equals 8December 8, 2010 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #990045Y.W. EditorKeymaster
If you any tips place them in the following thread – not in this thread (they will not be approved. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/suggestions-to-improve-ywnDecember 8, 2010 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #990046WolfishMusingsParticipant
Not all dashes are minuses – they can be put to other uses. 🙂
The WolfDecember 8, 2010 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #990047
so then how else can you explain squeaks equation?December 8, 2010 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #990048
That is a totally X-ian concept. They are the ones who took a plus sign and made something else out of it. Do you want to start a new religion based on a new use for a minus sign, CH”V?
(in case anyone notices, it was intentional)December 9, 2010 12:38 am at 12:38 am #990049
“mw13, yeah, if it were true, but it isn’t!”
What isn’t? There was no accusation in my post.
“For one reason, if I attacked Rabbonim, the moderators would never have posted it! So again I say prove it!”
Again, for some reason you appear to think this is only about you. It is not.
That said, if you have a guilty conscience, there might be a reason for that…
And anyways, I seem to remember a specific post of yours complaining that the Mods weren’t posting your comments against Rabbonim.
“i would not allow people who claim to be myfriend despite how helpful they feel they are especially when they feel they are always so right to post in the same topic it makes it seem like thechevra is all on one side when it is really just one user”
Speaking of unfounded accusations…December 9, 2010 3:16 am at 3:16 am #990050
MW13, “And anyways, I seem to remember a specific post of yours complaining that the Mods weren’t posting your comments against Rabbonim”.
Wrong again, What I said was, that if I had actually bashed Rabbonim the Mods would not have posted it! And no I have only one screen name. I don’t know who luchos is.
MW13 and the other two who keep harping on this. I’m done with this L”H. None of you can prove that I did it because I didn’t. And I have already proved it because it is against the CR rules and it would never have been posted. So stop already what you are saying is untrue and what you are saying is that the CR allows such comments to be posted which is also not true. So can you please stop with these lies already?December 10, 2010 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #990051
“Wrong again, What I said was, that if I had actually bashed Rabbonim the Mods would not have posted it!”
I was referring to a different comment of yours, in which you caomplained that the Mods don’t post your comments attacking Rabbonim but allow others to attack you.
“MW13 and the other two who keep harping on this. I’m done with this L”H.”
I do not believe Lashon Hara applies to anonymous internet usernames.
“None of you can prove that I did it because I didn’t. And I have already proved it because it is against the CR rules and it would never have been posted.”
It is also against the CR rules to have more than one username; Yet the YW Editor himself has written that several usernames here are one and the same, and they are all still posting. The CR rules aren’t always so strictly enforced.December 12, 2010 2:19 am at 2:19 am #990052
Mw13, Once again you misquoted me and twisted my words so I am taking the advice of the other posters and the other mods and I am going to ignore, ignore, ignore! As of this post I am done with all the nasties. I am going to leave it up to the others to deal with all the twisted comments and rude and unwarranted remarks. The Shaitel story proved my point, how everyone twisted the story, turning the laundromat into cleaners, turning Spanish people into Chinese, turning a qualified Judge into just an arbitrator and twisting and turning tesmitony into words that was never said.
I am going to choose to ignore your attacks and unkind words and move on. I am going to use my freedom of choice and just skip over your posts and if you don’t like me or what I say I suggest you do the same. We can’t please everyone so I am not going to try. I am just going to get on with it and move past it. If you have a problem with me its your problem I am going to choose not to engage with you and the other few who have chosen to attack me whether they are you with other screen names or they are truly other people. So that’s it, it comes to an end for me. I’m done with it.December 12, 2010 3:16 am at 3:16 am #990053myfriendMember
mw13: Good points.December 12, 2010 5:44 am at 5:44 am #990054
Wow. Apparently my comment was “twisted”, “rude”, “unwarranted” and “unkind”.
I just love a calm, intelligent discussion…
“The Shaitel story proved my point, how everyone twisted the story…”
I did not post at all on the Shaitel story thread, so I’m not sure how this proves anything at all about my previous post.
“I am going to choose to ignore your attacks and unkind words and move on.”
aries, I did not “attack” you in any way, shape or form. The first part of my comment was a simple clarification of what I had said earlier, which I was not sure I had made clear; the second and third parts were calm, logical refutations of what you had said. There was nothing in there attacking anybody.
“We can’t please everyone so I am not going to try.”
The reason I come to the CR is precisely to discuss issues with people I don’t agree with (after all, if we all agreed on everything the CR would be rather boring). But if you are not willing to calmly discuss things without accusing your opponents of “attacking” you, then I guess this conversation is indeed over.December 12, 2010 6:13 am at 6:13 am #990055
Aries- I always wonder why you take these posts so personal.
When I dislike a poster’s comment, I skip over it.
If you think a poster is wrong or offensive, why bother? You will not change them.
For all you know some posters you are upset at are 15 year olds with no life experience or others might just be not so very bright(no offense to any specific poster here please.)
If you really think you’re doing the right thing, then you shouldn’t let other poster shake you. This goes to all posters here.December 12, 2010 6:39 am at 6:39 am #990056
If someone is hurt,you don’t dissect it,you correct it.
A simple “no harm meant”is sufficient.
Ona’as devorim on the internet…Mods,why do you allow it?Especially,if one poster is clearly older than the other,even more respect is due.December 12, 2010 6:54 am at 6:54 am #990057Smile E. FaceMember
was gonna answer, but im not a moderator anymore:( oh well, its a kaparah:)
i agree with eclipse… onaas devarim on the internet is becoming worse and worse-keep in mind that things sound a lot harsher wehn you write them and the tone understood and the tone you meant dont always=the samse thingDecember 12, 2010 6:55 am at 6:55 am #990058
eclipse: Should all posters be required to include their age in their bio, so the mods can know who to give more weight to? And should the mods first do an age verification check, to insure no one overstates their true age?December 12, 2010 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #990059
smartcookie, maybe this is why I am sensitive to the holier than thous, and the small minded people who jump to conclusions. A few years ago I frequented another frum blog. I was acquainted with the Rabbi who ran it and I joined because we were both working towards the same goals. At any rate it did not have a delayed posting with moderators, he believed in the honor system and had a “report this post” button.
At any rate, I was very, very involved because I was coaching and mentoring and as was the case there as is here, not everyone was in tune to helping the at-risk kids and many thought they were “bad” and “bums”, there were many who disagreed with me. On Friday afternoon, I had finished my preparations rather early and I was on the blog answering posts up until 10 minutes before lighting candles. Motzei shabbos when I turned on my computer and logged in I was shocked to find the holier than thous spouting all this loshon horah about me saying that you can’t listen to anything I say because I am not even frum or shomer shabbos. Look at the time I posted my last comments, it was way past the zman…yadah, yadah, yadah……
The attacks were so vicious the tears just started to flow. It took a good half hour before I gathered myself to answer. You see, I hibernate in Miami for the winter and the zman here is a good hour after that in New York. I was shocked that these people were so small minded that they assumed everyone on the blog lived in their “daled amos”. It was truly appalling. So I answered them and asked did they really think that the internet was only invented for New Yorkers? Did they really think that the website members only lived in New York? I happened to be in Miami and there happened to be members in Israel and all over the globe. What gave them the right to jump to such disgusting conclusions and say such loshon horah accusing me of not being frum and not being shomer shabbos. They started to back peddle and then say well if the blog is based in New York then you are not allowed to post when the blog is shut down…….
I was so terribly hurt that frum people would be so cruel and viscous it hit me to the core of my soul. That blog was not like this one, people just discussing, that was more of a help line. Other people started posting from Chicago and L.A. and then the Rabbi posted himself. On that blog I used my real name and not a screen name, so it was even more devastating. The Rabbi had a few choice words to say about what happened and of course vouched for my reputation.
So yes, I am sensitive to personal attacks probably because of that, and I am disgusted when people jump to conclusions and judge others for no reason. And this is probably one of the reasons. Everyone with an opinion thinks that they are right. But most people know when to back down and apologize, at least when to back off and stop.
It is truly a sad commentary when yidden just have to keep going at each other without reason, just because they want to be right. How important is being right when you are being hurtful to other people anonymously or not? Does it make a person feel good about themselves that they one-upped another person? Does it make them feel good that they got another shot it, or threw another dagger? Is that what Yiddishkeit is about? Not at my age. I know better.December 12, 2010 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #990060
Tryingmybest,you are young,I can tell you that much.:)December 12, 2010 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #990061Smile E. FaceMember
eclipse and tmb- should age be in years or maturity level? (i am NOT referring to a/o in specific):)December 12, 2010 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #990062
Aries- When I meet people who jump to conclusions, I view them as VERY narrowminded and not too bright.
If they can’t understand that we each have our own Derech in Avodas Hashem, and we each try to do our best, then they are missing some sensitivity and Sechel.
If you would realize that, then you would see them as fools and you wouldn’t be so sensitive to their comments.
(Of course that incident on that Erev Shabbos was extreme and I would also stick up for myself since an entire site was shaming and blaming you falsely. But some individuals here really shouldn’t move you.)December 12, 2010 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #990063
Smile E.: As long as the age verification check is done to insure that posters do not OVERSTATE their true age, I’m good with it either way.December 12, 2010 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #990064
All I meant is that if one person is in high school(they’ve said so), and one person has mentioned their bi-focals or their grandchildren,that is sufficient evidence with which to deduce that chances are the one with the einiklach should be addressed respectfully by the one taking finals.December 12, 2010 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #990065
smartcookie, like I said I am taking the advice from other posters such as yourself, eclipse and others as well as some other moderators and am just going to ignore, ignore, ignore and skip over the posters who have been baiting me. Thank you so much, I appreciate it.December 12, 2010 8:22 pm at 8:22 pm #990066WIYMember
Trying my best
Age has little bearing on the value of the comments that people make. If someone speaks Torah truth I respect their statement. If someone is 65 years old but spouts am haaratzus and apikorsus I will not respect the statement and will feel free to attempt to correct the person or at least clarify the subject for the others who are reading and think that the person may know what he or she is talking about because of their age.
Age is NOT an accurate barometer for intelligence, knowledge or maturity. Yes technically an older person should be wiser more mature and more knowledgeable but it isnt always the case. Especially in areas of Torah where you have people who are past middle age who rarely opened a Halacha, Hashkafa or Mussar sefer in their lives. There are plenty of 50 year old children out there.December 12, 2010 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #990067
WIY, what if they are not speaking about Torah or Halacha?December 12, 2010 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm #990068
What subject under the sun doesn’t have a Torah or halacha aspect to it?December 12, 2010 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #990069WIYMember
Age does not mean that the older person knows more although technically an older person should know more its far from being the rule. Intelligence is something that you are born with. Its up to the person to use that potential. I have seen young kids who think deeper than many adults and can put them to shame.December 12, 2010 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #990070
TMB, read the list of topics such as this one!December 12, 2010 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #990071
There are plenty of 50 year old children out there.
Wow! Such deep words. You couldn’t have said better.December 12, 2010 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm #990072
WIY, I disagree, Intelligence is something you acquire with age and experience as is knowledge. And I agree, you should use that gift to the best potential. Common Sense is something that you are born with and it is priceless, you just can’t buy it. You either have it or you don’t.July 31, 2012 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #990073Doodle-Man™Member
Hey Goq! Where’s our CR link at the bottom of the page?!July 31, 2012 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #990074ToiParticipant
if i were a mod, i would delete every thread that openly talks about arayos and proud people. i dont understand why the CR has beome the correct venue and forum, from all places on the internet, to yell about things that should be whispered about. i think its disgusting.July 31, 2012 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #990075gavra_at_workParticipant
if i were a mod, i would delete every thread that openly talks about arayos and proud people. i dont understand why the CR has beome the correct venue and forum, from all places on the internet, to yell about things that should be whispered about. i think its disgusting.
I agree, and would add that euphimisms should be used for anything that we don’t want a ten year old to read.
In addition, I would temporarily block myself for purposefully getting OTB’s goat.
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