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hey what are the three “R”s? i’m guessing reading, (w)riting, (a)rithmatic??
“Men are from Earth, Women are from Earth. Deal with it.”
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moish01: oh is that what they are? i couldnt figure it out lol i never heard tha before
Nechama, I like it!!
ames- re: mamazetz- I think nobody was really able to assist you because the expression/word is really “mamazetzER”. And as Joseph did mention earlier, this means the “the-mother-of-all” & has that type of connotation. In your example: it was a mamazether of a house- the biggest, grandest house ever
areivim: i believe squeak explained it.$
i always thoughtmy siblings were from another planet huh guess i was wrong 😛
chutassi- please forgive me! for I have sinned.
you see, squeak has been gone for so long I’m already attributing all his quotes to Joseph. That’s really sad- I was definitely his biggest fan. no doubt
“If things don’t go the way you want then want the way they go”
ames-Thanks!
Moish- you got that right!( The 3 R’s-Reading,writing, and arithmatic)See how smart you are!
ames: please don’t start writing mamazetzer(i like the word, but i won’t steal it from you) posts now.$
yeh i know my reading, riting and rithmatic. achshav ani mamash iluy.
ames: CH”V, i meant don’t write long posts, it had nothing to do with anything, i just wanted to use the word.$
BasYisroel2: wow great ones!!!
ames: it sounded ok mamazet, in the way you used it as you have made a mamazetzer of a mistake!!
qwertyuiop: as to your fave word hazeeta: my sister started using it, i donno where she picked it up from[not here for sure]!!! it drives me nuts when she uses it, cause i keep wanting to yell ”hey that’s my dear friend qwerty’s fave word!!!”
whats hazeeta?
i thought hazeet was syrian’s fav- meaning ‘nebach’
confused
asdfghjkl: 🙂
i’m confused now, i thought it meant nebach, ames or syriansephardi, please explain.$
ames, yes.
qwertyuiop: seriously everytime she says it, which is very often, i think of you!!!
areivimzehlazeh: qwertyuiop uses it alot, especially on the homepage comments!!!
ames: yes sounds correct for nebach!!!
asdfghjkl: does she use mamazetzer, because that’s my 2nd favorite word.$
ames: i believe so, and no i didn’t get confused from that, i got confused because syriansephardi said it means nebach, and you said it doesn’t.$
yoshi!!!! you havent been here in ages! youve been missed!
ames that very funny whenever ive heard the word used (outside of the CR) it was always haazita and i was wondering why everyone was saying it without the a at the end.
moish maybe to help prove the point (even though language wasnt one of the three r’s) lets say achshav ani iluy(a) mamash
could we go back on topic now?
you mean in pirkei avos when it describes the seven traits on a chochom and then the opposite seven are a golem?
shoel keinyan umeishiv kehalacha
qwertyuiop: nope, she doesn’t use mamazetzer!!! it’s a cool word, i’ll start using it!!!
hey ames, why did you ask me?
“Time is not days, hours, minutes-that is how you measure time. Time is being and doing.”
“Act like who you want to be, and realize you become what you do”
you wish. just a few random things i happen to remember.
moish is an anav in addition to a talmid chochom.
joseph, you mean a person could be both?? 😉
and i don’t know where you get these weird ideas from. “not stupid” does not mean “talmid chochom.”
just by the way, define the term “talmid chochom.”
you’ll see i don’t fit into the category.
moish, I’ll turn the challenge over to you. Define the term talmid chacham.
~a~
well, notice that people don’t get called a chochom, but rather a “talmid.” i’d say that a talmid chochom is someone who is learning from a chochom, which i just said is probably non-existent. so is it someone who is a talmid of chochma? which i would say is torah?
either way, i’m not a talmid of anyone.
anyone who has something to offer can really be called a chacham, no? so if someone learns something then why wouldn’t he be a talmid chacham?
ames great quote and lol
not really. think of great rabbis. you still call them “talmidei chochomim.”
i guess it’s probably because there’s no end to learning. maybe it’s supposed to be mussar or something. don’t ask me.
ames: nice quote there!!!
ames, you missed the point 😉
jk, i know you do, but they’re still called talmidei chochomim. the title “chochom” is instead of saying “rabbi.” seems like there are too many so-called “rabbis” that they need to differentiate between the real ones and the wanna-bes somehow… (tell me i’m not too far form the truth!)
i told you on friday. there are a bunch more but i’m not quoting them to you because i’m gonna get “talmid chochom” remarks from you and joseph and i’m not interested.
ames: great quote.$
I’m liking the turn that this thread took!
the root of the word talmid is learn. A talmid is someone who is learning and there is no specification as to from where he is learning. Chacham is a smart person.
I’ll leave y’all to draw your own conclusions…..
~a~
haha ok, ames
- aino medaber lifnei mi shegodol mimenu bechochma ub’minyan
- ve’aino nichnas l’soch divrei chaveiro
- ve’aino nivhal le’hoshiv
- sho’el ke’inyon umeshiv k’halocha
- ve’omer al rishon rishon v’al acharon acharon
- v’al ma she’lo shoma omer lo shomati
- umodeh al ha’emes
i think that’s right. someone correct me if i messed up somewhere. you want translations or you think you could manage?
oh now where exactly does it say that a chochom applies what he learns? (i’ll admit that i might be a tipesh, but the opposite of a chochom here is a golem.)
sorry about that. i probably could have googled and found them typed out in hebrew.
moish please don’t barf… you make me proud :):):):)
don’t tell me you don’t have an oversized brain in that head of yours
yeah i’m looking at it now – there’s only two sufs.
moish01: can i get a translation?
sure, teen!
there are seven traits in a golem and seven in a chochom.
a chochom:
- doesn’t speak before one who is greater than him in wisdom or in years
- doesn’t cut in while his friend is speaking
- doesn’t rush to answer
- asks questions that are on topic and answers appropriately
- answers what’s asked first, first and second, second (answers questions in the order they were asked)
- when he doesn’t know something he says “i don’t know”
- admits the truth
and the opposite seven are a golem.
oh…thanx 🙂
teen, you remember stuff from school? (by the way, do you go to school at all)
I must be a golem – I am terrible about interrupting people I always rush to respond and I generally change the order 🙂 I don’t have a problem saying I don’t know though. I guess I am only part golem and cannot accompany Frodo.
moish01: yeh some stuff…ive been in and out of schools through out high school but im not in any school now
ames chachma bagoyim ta’amin, torah bagoyim al ta’amin
and you dont even need to “sfardiize” it…
Don’t tell Hashem how big your troubles are, tell your troubles how big Hashem is.
The problem is not the problem, the problem is my attitude to the problem.
Why regret growing older, its a privlege denied to many.
Today is the tomorrow that you worried about yesterday.
All Mamarai Chazal are inspiring quotes. (That is not an inspiring quote)
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