June 27, 2016 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #617891Rabbi of CrawleyParticipant
I don’t know how it goes in america ! I’m from Sussex, UKJune 27, 2016 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #1157876zahavasdadParticipant
The Agudah is Charedi and the RCA is Modern Orthodox
Also The RCA gets involved with Beis Dins and suchJune 27, 2016 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #1157877The FrumguyParticipant
Agudah has a more Chareidi clientele and the RCA caters to the Modern Orthodox.June 27, 2016 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #1157878lesschumrasParticipant
Two different constituenciesJune 27, 2016 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #1157879CTLAWYERParticipant
They are not connected. The RCA started in 1935 by alumni of REITS (Yeshiva University). It expanded to take in alumni of Hebrew Theological College in Chicago.
For many years it was affiliated with the UOJCA and helped start its kashrut division.
There are members of many types of Orthodox Judaism including loads of Modern Orthodox.
Agudah is considered a Hareidi organization to the right of RCA.June 28, 2016 12:43 am at 12:43 am #1157880CTLAWYERParticipant
Back when I was president of an old-time (started in the 1880s) orthodox shul in CT. It was affiliated with the UOJCA. Our shul rabbi belonged to both the RCA and Aguda and each year his contract granted time off to attend the annual Aguda November convention in NY.June 28, 2016 1:57 am at 1:57 am #1157881
The Moetzes sometimes sends a message to the RCA to keep them in line.June 28, 2016 4:34 am at 4:34 am #1157882
Joseph, and vice versa.June 28, 2016 5:49 am at 5:49 am #1157883takahmamashParticipant
1. You don’t need to type in all upper-case letters; we can read your title just as well if you typed it normally. Typing in all upper-case is considered as if you’re shouting.
2. The first word should be “are,” not “is.”June 28, 2016 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm #1157884
Avi, not really. At least not in the sense where they’ll take a position in consideration of the RCA’s opinion.June 28, 2016 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm #1157885zahavasdadParticipant
The only time they MIGHT work together is if there is a common issue like vouchers for private schoolsJune 28, 2016 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm #1157886
That is sad, Joseph. Chazal say that one should acquire a friend because he will point out one’s errors. The Tzemach Tzedek (of Lubavitch) said that the Chassidim owed a debt of gratitude to the Gra for keeping them from crossing the line and Rav Kook added that that is the general purpose of opposition.June 28, 2016 3:29 pm at 3:29 pm #1157887
Avi, they have diversity of opinion internally that provides a great deal of correction.
ZD, after longtime RCA member Avi Weiss did one of his shticklech several years ago, the Moetzes issued a public call for the RCA to call him out. A few days later the RCA issued a resolution doing just that.July 1, 2016 12:30 am at 12:30 am #1157888Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
Avi, I think the RCA and Agudas get along a little better than the Gra and early Chasidim. It’s not really opposition like that.
For years, just about all American gerim have been funneled into RCA beis dins. So, if the RCA did anything stupid (like went off the Avi Weiss deep end) it would create a lot of mamzers. I imagine Agudas “keeping them in check” helps keep this from happening.
Do you have any examples of when the RCA has ever “kept Agudas in check?”July 1, 2016 4:23 am at 4:23 am #1157889
Joseph so does the RCA.
Neville, I think that the evolving position on abuse is an example.July 1, 2016 4:45 am at 4:45 am #1157890
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