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  • #600932
    DenimGirl
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    On a first date, is it exceptable or not appropriate?

    #832552
    Sam2
    Participant

    It depends who you are and who you’re dating.

    #832553
    A Heimishe Mom
    Participant

    Denim is for camp or housecleaning. Maybe grocery shopping. Not much more. And I am super-casual. Put on something decent for a date.

    #832554
    DenimGirl
    Member

    Anyone, any opinions?

    #832555
    aries2756
    Participant

    NOT appropriate!

    #832556
    Rav Tuv
    Participant

    Or acceptable?

    #832557
    BTGuy
    Participant

    I would say not appropriate but that is based on me being told not to wear mine. Cerealously, I would say no because when I was set up on a first date, I was told to wear a suit and my hat, and I dont wear a hat….yet.

    Hatzlacha!!

    #832558
    DenimGirl
    Member

    Sam2- that is true. but is it like a total turn off?

    A Heimishe Mom, aries2756- I wear denim ALL the time. a black skirt is just not me. I feel like i’m not showing my true colors when wearing black skirts. a nice denim skirt with a better top/sweater not decent enough?

    musser zoger- thanks for correcting me, realized that later on.

    #832559
    DenimGirl
    Member

    BTGuy- yeah that’s what everyone is telling me, i just dont see what the issue is…why are people trying to cover up who/what they really are….

    #832560
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Troll. (you guys really fooled?)

    #832561
    A Heimishe Mom
    Participant

    It’s not covering up who you are. At that stage in my life I was also a “Denim Girl.” I even wore my biz to Touro (gasp!). But on a date it is simply not apporpriate. You should be dressed better than that. You should be wearing shabbos clothes, not weekday clothes! Unless of course its like date #5,6 during the day and planned as casual eg. museum, boat ride, park, etc.

    #832562
    BTGuy
    Participant

    Hi DenimGirl.

    You bring up a good point about what the issue is. I guess it is a very special event and it shows you recognize it is not an ordinary thing. I would say by the second or so date, one can begin to show their preferred style of dress.

    I am not a suit guy. I prefer denim, a nice shirt, leather jacket (not anymore), a bandana reppin’ my gang affiliation (not anymore) ..lol. But when my Rabbi said there is someone he wants me to meet, he kinda nudged me and said I should wear a suit and a hat. The irony is the lady I was meeting told me she told him I dont have to dress up. lol Ultimately, who knows? Take in the advice and come to your own consensus, and have a fantastic time on the date. It is exciting!!

    #832563

    (you guys really fooled?)

    trolls can spot other trolls much quicker than the rest of us can.

    #832564
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    And most days, I don’t wear a suit. And most evenings, I don’t shave. And I don’t usually shower in the afternoon either.

    Maybe I should just show up like I usually look at 7:00 PM, since that is me.

    Going further, most nights, I don’t go to a lounge in Manhattan, I go to the yeshiva dining room. So I’ll take her there.

    And most nights, I don’t pick up a girl at all. So I won’t go to her house.

    I want to be me. So tell the girl she can come to yeshiva and eat supper across the table from me. Unless it is turkey legs- then I’m going for pizza. But my chavrusa is coming, I hope that’s ok?

    And I can stay out 10 minutes into night seder, but any later than that and my chavrusah gets cranky. (You can date him instead, but then he will need to be at night seder 10 minutes early.)

    #832565
    DenimGirl
    Member

    popa_bar_abba- not, looks like you’re the one that’s fooled here.

    Thanks for all that responsed. If anyone has any other opinions, I’d appreciate if they post.

    #832566
    Nechomah
    Participant

    Do you wear denim even on Shabbos or for a chassanah? I would say that Shabbos clothes for a first date is the most appropriate.

    #832567
    DenimGirl
    Member

    BTGuy- thanks! I will.

    charlie brown- so right!

    popa_bar_abba- don’t you think you’re being a little over the top?!

    Ok guys– Shabbos cloths it is!!! (I guess). now, got to go get ready. thanks all for you’re opinions, greatly appreciated!

    #832568
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I take it you don’t want to date me?

    #832569

    popa_bar_abba- don’t you think you’re being a little over the top?!

    denim…please tell me you saw popa’s subtitle…

    #832570
    Nechomah
    Participant

    No, pba, I don’t even think she wants to date your chavrusa!

    #832571
    mommamia22
    Participant

    Denim girl,

    Listen to popa.

    His joke really explains best of all the reason it’s not appropriate.

    First impressions are lasting impressions.

    Think about it. Would you want a guy bringing you to their yeshiva dining room for your first date (apart from the onlookers)?

    How about your date showing up grungy after a long day? Even if he straightens out his clothing, he just isn’t his best.

    Men are very visual. The efforts you make to look nice show how much you value your date. You might think a jean skirt looks nice, but many men wil not look at this as a flattering look. Think about it this way: casual look, casual interest.

    #832572
    always here
    Participant

    IMO– if the guy’s wearing jeans, then you can wear a jeans skirt.

    otherwise, very definitely not appropriate.

    & I wear (long) denim skirts almost all the time. (just so you know where I’m coming from).

    #832573
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Listen to popa.

    I nominate mommamia22 for poster of the year.

    #832575
    Sam2
    Participant

    I personally don’t think I’d have a problem with it. I can definitely see why certain people would. It depends on who you’re dating.

    #832576
    mommamia22
    Participant

    Popa

    LOL! Ego boost!

    #832577
    oomis
    Participant

    On a first date – no, in my opinion, but that’s because I like girls to look more formally put-together for a first meeting, though not too pitzy, either. But for other casual dates, why not?

    #832578
    cshapiro
    Member

    do u know where ur going? if ur going to a fancy restaurant or even a lounge i would say wear a dress and heals…but if ur doing something casual like dave and busters or ice skating…denims fine but i say play it up with a pair of nice boots and maybe a brown leather jacket…

    #832579

    BTguy were you really once a gang member? WHich gang?

    #832580
    oot for life
    Participant

    nu? how was the date?

    #832581
    MichaelC
    Member

    Denim is from the same material as jeans.

    ‘Many consumers in Western societies are willing to pay extra for jeans that have the appearance of being used. To give the fabrics the right worn look sandblasting is used’ ( from jeans Wikipedia).

    Now as i said before, to dress like a tramp, it affects who you are.

    ‘I was reading Rav Mendle Kaplan’s Torah thoughts, he wrote that when non Jewish men in the olden days would dress neat, wear a suit, a hat, they would dresss menchlitkiet they would behave better, but now as clothing became more casual, they would wear shorts, jeans ect, their behavior became worse, turning to the Jewish men he said, when they dress like a yeshiva boy should look (the Alter’s gadlus haodom’s Derech), they behave better.

    In conclusion how you dress, can affect how you behave.’

    #832582

    Denimgirl, it’s not about “showing the real you”. It’s about showing respect for the person you are meeting for the first time. “Showing the real you” on a first date gives the impression that you’re more interested in yourself than in your potential zivug. I doubt that anyone searching for a prospective mate would find such an attitude endearing.

    There are, of course, dating occasions when casual dress, or even rough dress, may be appopriate. A first meeting isn’t one of them.

    #832583
    oot for life
    Participant

    Wooh! hold on there. The way we speak also effects who we are as a person. I am sure DenimGirl and all the other people out there wearing denim skirts are nice fine bas torahs. How can you possibly call them a tramp. And since when does wearing jeans, even if they are “sand blasted” a sign of a tramp? What does that quote have to do with anything?

    Denim was originally made popular during the gold rush because it was cheap for Levi and Strauss to make and it didn’t show dirt as well.

    While I agree that how one carries himself does have an effect on behavior, it is far from the determining factor. We should be much more concerned about whats on the inside than whats on the outside (insert colored shirt and kipa sruga comments here).

    #832584
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    And since when does wearing jeans, even if they are “sand blasted” a sign of a tramp?…

    Denim was originally made popular during the gold rush…

    Precisely, jeans are gold mining clothes and gold miners are tramps.

    Gold miners are tramps because they are not engaged in producing any value for the world, and are only stealing from the rest of us.

    See, gold is money. When someone mines gold, he is just adding more money to the world, which makes our money worth less. Gold mining is essentially no different than printing dollars in your basement.

    We should put them all in prison, gold miners, jeans wearers, Wall Street Occupiers, counterfeiters, and all.

    #832585
    DenimGirl
    Member

    “We should be much more concerned about whats on the inside than whats on the outside”

    I’m with you on that one ALL THE WAY!!

    #832586
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    “We should be much more concerned about whats on the inside than whats on the outside”

    Of course. I don’t care if someone doesn’t wear teffilin or have a bris. As long as they feel close to G-d on the inside.

    You are all a bunch of tramps and gold miners.

    (In other words, the old popa is back.)

    #832587
    BrainwasheD
    Participant

    Gold and silver haven’t been money since 1971. It’s a lot harder to inflate your way out of debt when it’s based on actual precious metal than fiat currency. The Eurozone is having a similar issue- the unified currency means individual countries like Italy and Greece can’t inflate their way out of the crushing debt load since the supply has to be coordinated with fiscally responsible countries like Germany, making their Eurozone membership less and less likely.

    As a husband, I am actually happy for the gold mines. By increasing supply they lower the price. And when the gold price collapses due to oversupply and the usual bubble bursting, gold will get even cheaper.

    #832588
    BTGuy
    Participant

    Hi always runs with scissors.

    It depends. Were you a gang member? If so, which one. lol

    #832589
    DenimGirl
    Member

    “You are all a bunch of tramps and gold miners.”

    Which makes you…..??

    #832590
    pet peeve
    Member

    raphael kaufman: like

    #832591
    ayshoshee
    Participant

    i personally love my denim skirts and there are some very nice ones out there that if it was a different material u could wear them for shabbos but i would never wear a denim skirt on a date!it all depends where u are going and what type of guy you are going out with- is he wearing jeans??? if not then u prob should not wear a denim skirt. what impression do u want to give???

    #832592
    squeak
    Participant

    ” Of course. I don’t care if someone doesn’t wear teffilin or have a bris. As long as they feel close to G-d on the inside.”

    Isn’t that pretty much true for all the girls you’ve dated?

    #832593
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    I would never wear a denim skirt on any date. In fact, I would never wear one period, even to take out the garbage. They are assur d’oraisa!

    #832594
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    “Of course. I don’t care if someone doesn’t wear teffilin or have a bris. As long as they feel close to G-d on the inside.”

    Isn’t that pretty much true for all the girls you’ve dated?

    No, they weren’t all pretty, much. I don’t know why you assume they were.

    #832595
    oot for life
    Participant

    squeak made me laugh

    is it an asei to only wear one type of fabric or a lo sasei not to wear denim?

    #832596
    Jothar
    Member

    Can a guy wear a denim shirt on a date?

    #832597
    brotherofurs
    Participant

    someone i know wheres some denim skirts everyday but usually on dates she dresses a little fancier, like a nice sweater and skirt (not a very fancy shabbat outfit..but sm that could be both for a restaurant or to the park)

    #832598
    OneOfMany
    Participant

    ItcheSrulik: lol

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