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  • #618285
    Sparkly
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    Can someone please post the jewish holidays dates coming up this semester (which means up till hanukah)? i dont have a jewish calendar on me and i NEED to tell my college professors so that way they allow me to miss class? thanks so much!

    #1177432
    WolfishMusings
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    There is a website called Hebcal which is an online Hebrew/Gregorian calendar. It’s very useful and completely free.

    The Wolf

    #1177433

    Sunday night-Tuesday October 2-4 is ROSH HASHANA

    Wednesday October 5 is a fast day of TZOM GEDALIAH

    Wednesday October 12 is YOM KIPPUR

    Monday through following Tuesday October 17-25 is the holiday of SUCCOS

    Sunday through Following Sunday December 25-January 1st 2017 is CHANUKAH

    enjoy all of them with your family & may you be Matzliach in College

    #1177434
    Sparkly
    Member

    Mashiach Agent – which days on sukkis is chol hamoed because ALL the frum people NEED to come in during those days as well and the rav said its OKAY to come in because otherwise our grades would skyrocket down?

    #1177435

    Wednesday-Friday October 19-21 is chol Hamoed Succos

    #1177436

    Last day of chol hamoed Succos is shabbos

    #1177437
    Sparkly
    Member

    Thanks! Told my teacher.

    #1177438
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Most secular colleges in NY area are closed Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur

    #1177439
    iacisrmma
    Participant

    MA: Technical Correction. Sukkos this year is Monday – Sunday (10/17 – 10/23). Shmini Atzeres/Simchas Torah is Monday-Tuesday 10/24 and 10/25. Chol Hamoed Sukkos is 5 days. This coming year it is Wednesday – Sunday (the last day is Hoshana Rabbah).

    #1177440
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Also many secualr colleges especially ones with larger orthodox populations are aware of Succos and let their faculty members know about it

    #1177441
    yichusdik
    Participant

    There’s a hebrew date app from an Israeli company called appstudio. They also have a downloadable megillah app and a brachos app. you can google them and download

    #1177442

    Hoshana rabba is not Chol Hamoed although you can do melacha and drive

    #1177443

    As The Wolf wrote, you can go to:

    https://www.hebcal.com/holidays/hebcal-5777.pdf

    Very useful!

    #1177444
    iacisrmma
    Participant

    Hoshana Rabbah is not Chol Hamoed? Please bring me a source for this one.

    #1177445

    Every yom tov in the diaspora has 4 days of Chol Hamoed and the rest are days of yom tov

    #1177446
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Shavuos and Rosh Hashanah do not have chol homoed.

    #1177447

    thats why their not 7/8 day yomim tovim. neither does yom kippur which is a yom tov & not just a fast day

    #1177448
    iacisrmma
    Participant

    MA: I have asked you for a source that states that Hoshana Rabbah is not Chol hamoed. Peach is a 7 day Yom tov (in EY) with the first and last days are Kodesh and assur to do melachah. Therefore there are 5 days of Chol hamoed (4 in chutz laaretz). Sukkos is 7 days with only the first day being kodesh so there are 6 days of Chol Hamoed (5 in chutz laaretz). Day 6 of Chol Hamoed (Day 5 in chutz laaretz) is known as Hoshana Rabbah.

    #1177449
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    MA: I have asked you for a source that states that Hoshana Rabbah is not Chol hamoed.

    I believe we’re just arguing over a label here. We all agree that Hoshanna Rabba is a day where melacha is permitted (as on all other Chol HaMoeds) and yet, it has a charachter that is somewhat Yom-Tov like (especially in the davening).

    I don’t think whether or not you actually call it “Chol HaMoed” or not has any practical difference.

    (On the other hand, unlike Mashiach Agent, I fast on Asara B’Teves when it falls out on Friday. 🙂 )

    The Wolf

    #1177451
    iacisrmma
    Participant

    *Pesach is a 7 day Yom Tov (in EY)

    #1177452
    iacisrmma
    Participant

    The Wolf: You are correct……..except that MA stated “Hoshana rabba is not Chol Hamoed although you can do melacha and drive”. How can you say it is not Chol Hamoed? There is no Yom Tov in the torah called Hoshanah Rabbah.

    #1177453
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    The statement that you can do melacha on Chol Hamoed (and Hoshana Rabba) is not a completely accurate statement. It would be more correct to state that certain types of Melacha are permitted in certain circumstances. This is an important distinction to make, as there may be many people who are not aware of this or do not realize the seriousness of performing melacha on Chol Hamoed (or Hoshana Rabba) unless it is a situation that allows it (of which there are many).

    #1177454

    I’m glad I live in chutz laaretz. Being that how can a person feel the Tom tov kedusha when 6 out of 7 days a person is allowed to do melacha.

    Where is the kedusha to make me feel yom tov in Eretz yisroel? By the model every day? The streets are full of activity and work with driving

    #1177455

    Kosel

    #1177456
    iacisrmma
    Participant

    LU: thank you for the clarification.

    #1177457
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    It would be more correct to state that certain types of Melacha are permitted in certain circumstances.

    Yes, I know. I just didn’t feel like typing out “work of the type permitted on Chol HaMoed.”

    The Wolf

    #1177458
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    when 6 out of 7

    Five. The first and last days are Yom Tov.

    I’m glad I live in chutz laaretz. Being that how can a person feel the Tom tov kedusha when 6 out of 7 days a person is allowed to do melacha.

    Ummm… you do realize that that’s the way we’re *supposed to* observe it, right? In an ideal world, we’d ALL be keeping only one day of Yom Tov.

    I also think it’s absurd of you to question how people living in Eretz Yisroel can feel the kedusha of Yom Tov. I’m sure they do just fine.

    The Wolf

    #1177459
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    I’m glad I live in chutz laaretz. Being that how can a person feel the Tom tov kedusha when 6 out of 7 days a person is allowed to do melacha.

    Ummm… you do realize that that’s the way we’re *supposed to* observe it, right? In an ideal world, we’d ALL be keeping only one day of Yom Tov.

    I also think it’s absurd of you to question how people living in Eretz Yisroel can feel the kedusha of Yom Tov. I’m sure they do just fine.

    Wolf, thanks for writing what I (and I think many others) were thinking.

    #1177460
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    It would be more correct to state that certain types of Melacha are permitted in certain circumstances.

    Yes, I know. I just didn’t feel like typing out “work of the type permitted on Chol HaMoed.”

    The Wolf

    Understood. It wasn’t meant as a criticism; I just felt it was important to clarify.

    #1177461
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Wolf, thanks for writing what I (and I think many others) were thinking.

    You’re welcome.

    However, if you can please do me (and everyone else a favor)… if you’re going to quote someone else, please do something (italicize, put in quotation marks, etc.) to the quotes so that it’s easy to distinguish between the part you are quoting and your own thoughts. Otherwise, it gets very difficult to read.

    The Wolf

    #1177462
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Sorry, Wolf. Thanks for pointing that out. I usually do – must have been an oversight this time.

    It does get confusing even with quotes. How do you italicize? I didn’t think it was possible to do that here?

    #1177463
    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    “I’m glad I live in chutz laaretz. Being that how can a person feel the Tom tov kedusha when 6 out of 7 days a person is allowed to do melacha.”

    I guess you have never been to E”Y for a chag. Everywhere you go, people are walking around in shabbos clothing, chasidim in shtreimlach, spending time with family, visits to kosel (lulav and esrog in hand) special seudos, simchas beis hashoevas every night (on sukkos, obviously). Geula, usually a very busy shopping district, is quiet- stores are closed, there is a feeling of yom tov everywhere. It’s not strange to take off work or school for all of chol hamoed. Stores are stocked with chag-related items, even the bus drivers will wish you chag sameach. In chutz L’aaretz you need the extra day to achieve what comes naturally in Eretz Yisroel.

    #1177464
    Sparkly
    Member

    sorry i was explaining im NOT around jews too often. im use to being the ONLY jew which is what i was saying in the other thread. thats why i had to ask this question!!

    #1177465
    147
    Participant

    The background reasons for still observing ???-??? ??? is as obsolete as the background reasons for still having ????-???, because the respective reasons are no longer applicable, yet both ????? have remained in force, and we simply have to continue complying with them.

    On another more frustrating note, for both working people & college students:- during the forthcoming year of ???”? both ???-????? & ?????? shall be on a Wednesday, and both times the Monday 2 days before shall be a legal holiday:- Columbus Day & Memorial Day respectively, yet both time then the next day:- 1st working day of that week shall already be ??? ???-??? when have to utilize vacation time, & yet cannot change the legal holiday.

    Good luck to 770 arranging Labor Day and the West Indian Parade during 2021 & 2032, when Labor Day shall be ??? ???-???? & First Day ???-???? respectively.

    #1177466
    iacisrmma
    Participant

    147: I am not sure what your point is about Erev Yom Kippur and Erev Shavuous. This is not the first time nor the last where a legal holiday is on Monday and Erev Yom Tov is the next day. As for “770”, this same issue was confronted a few years ago and I don’t recall there were any problems with them coordinating with the City and the Parade officials.

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