December 25, 2009 2:29 am at 2:29 am #591005YW Moderator-42Moderator
As we all know, Joseph and squeak have been shteiging away in the Bais Medrash recently so have not been able to post in the Coffee room. Tonight being nittul nact, I think that we should hold a chess game between them. If you are here, show yourselves!!December 25, 2009 2:32 am at 2:32 am #1121524December 25, 2009 3:49 am at 3:49 am #1121525pookieMember
who said squeak is chasedishDecember 25, 2009 3:57 am at 3:57 am #1121526December 25, 2009 4:22 am at 4:22 am #1121528Feif UnParticipant
Nittel nacht was instituted in Europe when the Christians would go out and kill Jews on Christmas. The Chazon Ish said that in a country where there is no such danger, nittel nacht doesn’t apply, and is in fact nothing more than bittul Torah.December 25, 2009 4:25 am at 4:25 am #1121529
Nittel Nacht predates the Chasidim. And the Chasam Sofer held of it.December 25, 2009 4:57 am at 4:57 am #1121530NY MomMember
Mod 42: Wow! You brought them both out!
You are GOOD.December 25, 2009 6:55 am at 6:55 am #1121531
What are Moderators still doing up? Don’t they have to get up for shacharis tomorrow?
The only retarded person who is still up flooding YWN with comments is some guy Halelujah.December 25, 2009 7:09 am at 7:09 am #1121532
c’mon Moderators, you’re too tired to repond?
Was in the middle of responding while you were posting this. Now can we get back on topic please?December 25, 2009 7:10 am at 7:10 am #1121533YW Moderator-77Member
Insomnia? Different time zone? Just got up for tikkun chatzos?December 25, 2009 7:18 am at 7:18 am #1121534
Nittul Nacht is already over. I stayed up to bedavka learn after Nittel Nacht of course…but how can I get up without checking in in the YWN coffee room (okay maybe I’m being dan lekaf zechus to myself)December 25, 2009 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #1121535JotharMember
According to the chassam sofer, Nittel nacht follows the Eastern Orthodox (Julian) calendar, not the modern Gregorian.December 25, 2009 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #1121536HIEParticipant
i’m happy to announce that i learned for a long time on nitul nacht. some people have a minug to go to sleep early and get up at chatzos on nitul nacht and learn. One of the maggidei shiur in my yeshiva (TORAH VODAATH) told his shiur to get up 4AM AND learnDecember 28, 2009 7:28 am at 7:28 am #1121537anuranParticipant
Jothar, so you posek the Orthodox Patriarchs instead of the Catholic Priests? 🙂December 30, 2009 6:25 am at 6:25 am #1121538bein_hasdorimParticipant
coming up this thursday again acording to some.
You have to understand, some people are very machmir when it comes to this Minhag.December 31, 2009 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #1121539A600KiloBearParticipant
In Ukraine and Russia we do nitel next Thursday. Last year I inadvertently did it on the 24th as well and I was told it was not correct to do so.
Tonight is nitel for me as far as work is concerned because unlike the 25th which is not a legal holiday here and the 6th which is not a legal holiday in the Western world, it is a holiday everywhere and I can’t even accomplish much online as I don’t deal with EY or Asia where it might not count for much. Because the streets are crowded with drunks and illegal fireworks I can’t safely get to the beis medrash or any other place where Yidden might be together.
So I am posting away here until the fireworks show which I will watch since I can see it from my balcony and I am hardly joining the celebrations by watching from here :).December 31, 2009 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #1121540A600KiloBearParticipant
In Creedmoor, our 150 quintillion multiple personalities of our dear Admou”r argue among themselves as to when nitel is. To keep order, the Admou”r has long since proclaimed all 1000 nights of the Plutonian calendar year to be nitel.December 31, 2009 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #1121541jphoneMember
In Atlantic City and Las Vegas they follow the chumra of the Admor MiCreedmor and are machmir to play not just every night of the year misafek, but even during the day. All day, every day.January 6, 2014 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm #1121542yoseMember
1.e4 e5January 7, 2014 1:45 am at 1:45 am #1121543HaLeiViParticipant
How’d you get there?January 8, 2014 8:19 am at 8:19 am #1121544yoseMember
Picking up the pieces.April 12, 2015 4:09 am at 4:09 am #1121545
Your move, squeak.January 7, 2016 11:12 am at 11:12 am #1121546This name is already takenParticipant
whos up now to learn after chatzosJanuary 7, 2016 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #1121547screwdriverdelightParticipant
You’re 2 weeks too late, aren’t you?January 7, 2016 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #1121548
Orthodox Nittel.December 24, 2017 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #1434714
Your move, squeak.December 25, 2017 12:43 am at 12:43 am #1435682icemelterParticipant
I just learned chumash right before nittel chazos! Yes! no bittul Torah here.December 24, 2019 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #1813790
squeak, I’m still waiting for your move.January 6, 2022 11:17 pm at 11:17 pm #2048961
Hopefully squeak will soon be back here to make his move, now that we’re almost two years into Covid.December 25, 2022 3:40 am at 3:40 am #2151274
Checkmate.December 25, 2022 10:37 am at 10:37 am #2151296☕️coffee addictParticipant
You can’t checkmate someone that didn’t play
If you could I would be able to checkmate all the chess masters without seeing themDecember 25, 2022 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #2151391GadolhadorahParticipant
Is there any record or documentation that any of our gedolim were chess players?December 25, 2022 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #2151374
When your opponent forfeits the game, you win by default.December 26, 2022 1:50 am at 1:50 am #2151426
Gadol: There’s at least one famous picture of one of the gedolim playing chess on nittul nacht.December 26, 2022 1:35 pm at 1:35 pm #2151532☕️coffee addictParticipant
He never started playing and he never said he forfeited he never even agreed to playDecember 26, 2022 1:35 pm at 1:35 pm #2151526Dr. PepperParticipant
Thanks for brining back some memories of the good old days. Squeak is on vacation and I’m not sure if he’s checking the Coffee Room before he returns.
Instead of considering it a forfeit send him an e-mail, he’s pretty responsive.
(He left his email address in this encrypted message. You’ll either need to remember which thread I left the cypher in or get your own team of Polish Cryptographers.)December 26, 2022 1:35 pm at 1:35 pm #2151459
I think this year Motzei Shabbos over takes Nitel Nacht.December 26, 2022 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #2151591
See Yabia Omer YD (7,20) who describes the custom in detail. People, who learn at night, should sleep before chatzos and get up to learn afterwards.December 26, 2022 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #2151618
Dr. Pepper, I’ve had the practice of emailing him a few times a year, before each Yom Tov, over the last decade. (And cc:ing it to his alt email, in case he didn’t check the other.)December 27, 2022 9:46 am at 9:46 am #2151631Dr. PepperParticipant
Have you been using the one in the encrypted message? That’s the one I contact him on for Coffee Room related correspondence.December 27, 2022 9:46 am at 9:46 am #2151691
We keep nitel not the night to Dec 25 but the night to Jan 6 as pope Gregory removed 13 days in 1582 which was discussed on Tal Umotor Reminder.December 27, 2022 10:29 am at 10:29 am #2151717
Some keep it on Jan 7. This is depending if Dec 25 is inclusive in the 13 days or not.December 27, 2022 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #2151907
Reb Eliezer, it depends whether you’re Orthodox or not. (I assume you’re Orthodox.)December 27, 2022 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #2151910
Dr. Pepper, I’ve been communicating with squeak using these two addresses since 2009 (though his last substantial reply was around the time Trump came down the escalator). Going from memory, I think, but aren’t certain, that one of the two is the same as what’s in the encrypted message.December 27, 2022 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #2152003Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Nitel nacht, like Saturnalia before it, correlates with shortest day of the year. So, backwards Russkies celebrating it in January is minhag taut and need to be abolished. hope that still remaining chief rabbis of rushia can deliver this message to the chief rasha. although it seems to be sakono nefoshos lately to contradict them, so maybe russian yidden should continue doing nittel nacht in January l’darchei sholom v’briut.
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