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  • #1069888

    popa_bar_abba
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    Wisey: lol, I forgot about my riddle. That is the answer. I read it in a book somewhere, and this one was listed as “easy”.

    #1069889

    What am I?

    Anything that’s told to me I’ll repeat turned around

    Yet I’m always truthful, nowhere a lie to be found

    #1069890

    oomis
    Participant

    At first I thought an echo, but it really makes no sense…

    #1069891

    OneOfMany
    Participant

    Mirror?

    #1069892

    oomis

    Not a bad guess, but an echo doesn’t turn what you tell it around.

    If it did, the standard echo test would sound like a greeting to a new Israeli immigrant: “Hello…” “..Olleh”.

    OneOfMany

    A mirror, it is.

    Congrats!

    #1069893

    Ken Zayn
    Member

    This shabbos just passed, the fifteenth of the eleventh, you may notice that the sixteenth of the sixteenth has all 22 of the 22 which is, of course, not the complete set. To see it with the final versions you should look at the eighth of the third in the ninth of the twelve, who comes some 800 years later.

    Can you explain?

    #1069894

    Ken Zayn-

    This shabbos just passed, the fifteenth of the eleventh… (tes-vov Shvat)

    …you may notice that the sixteenth of the sixteenth has all 22 of the 22 which is, of course, not the complete set. (perek tes-zayin, pasuk tes-zayin has all the letters of the aleph-bais)

    To see it with the final versions you should look at the eighth of the third in the ninth of the twelve, who comes some 800 years later. (perek gimel, pasuk ches in Tzufania. “final versions” are “sofis” versions of letters.)

    Whoever came up with this – I’m impressed!

    #1069895

    Ken Zayn
    Member

    ” Whoever came up with this – I’m impressed!”

    ICOT: YOU’RE impressed? I’m totally in awe! This is a riddle I saw on shabbos but was only able to work out the tu bishvat part of it. How did you manage the rest?

    #1069896

    Ken Zayn-

    Thank you for the kind words.

    The solution method was following a thread from one item to the next.

    At first glance, I didn’t get any of the references. Then I started thinking about dates, and the first fell into place.

    Then I started thinking about twenty-two, and since “Hebrew dates” had just been referenced, the aleph-bais was something I thought of.

    The next number considered was twelve, which first brought to mind the shevatim (couldn’t find a fit), then trei assur, which fit.

    I’m far more impressed by whoever it is who knows Tnach so well that they know which psukim have these particular letters within them.

    #1069897

    Dr. Pepper
    Participant
    64  109  81  68   85  62  112  36  50   71   54  136

    51 115 85 65 59 36 80 7 35 57 21 128

    125 112 84 94 197 171 255 153 118 141 189 195

    #1069898

    I didnt read through all 45 pages so I hope this riddle wasnt written previously……

    You are stuck in a room with only a table. There is no doors or windows or chimneys or cracks anywhere. The room was built around you. There is nothing to help you get out eg: knives, picks, tools, weapons etc. How do you escape?

    Hint: It’s a play on words.

    #1069899

    GG yekke
    Member

    need seminary help: you scrape your hand on the table till your hands are sore. Take the saw and cut one leg of the table in half. Take to halves and they make a whole. Now go and climb through the hole.

    It carries on further i think but i dont remember the rest.

    #1069900

    Once u have climbed through the hole, you scream for help until your voice is hoarse. Then you jump on the horse and get away!!

    #1069901

    GG yekke
    Member

    need seminary help: thats the part i forgot

    #1069902

    squeak
    Participant

    Doc. I am very insulted.

    #1069903

    squeak
    Participant

    114 100 77 116 34 125 70 76 58 88 115 133

    108 74 31 87 9 107 81 31 38 63 103 128

    163 219 262 249 135 217 46 257 147 197 184 180

    #1069904

    Dr. Pepper

    <<chomp>>

    squeak

    Don’t be insulted.

    A skilled fisherman baits his hook appropriately for his intended catch. In some cases, a shiny hook is the best bait ?

    (Did you decipher it yourself? I would never have been able to.)

    #1069905

    squeak
    Participant

    OK <sniffle> you convinced me to put the hanky away.

    Anyone without a team of Polish crypto scientists would need the key to decode it, but how are you so sure I did?

    #1069906

    squeak-

    I’m not sure you figured it out – but I wouldn’t be surprised if you did.

    BTW, the Polish crackers broke the “easy” Enigma. The Bletchley Park crackers broke the later and far more difficult one.

    Glad you’re smiling again ?

    #1069907

    squeak
    Participant
    60 149 138 80 57 46 113 144 34 114 43 46 100 134 126 59 94 134 122 36 114

    63 127 129 68 28 12 113 133 17 120 27 12 63 107 123 61 105 127 128 17 120

    63 262 201 143 177 183 140 215 103 117 110 183 257 262 165 65 75 189 125 113 117

    Based on the outcome of your latest multiple screen name thread.

    #1069908

    squeak-

    I look forward to reading your post, but since my Cracker Jacks Decrypto Ring (or whatever it is someone sent me) is at home, I’ll need to wait until then.

    #1069909

    squeak
    Participant

    you mean you cant do this in your head? thats got to be frustrating.

    #1069910

    Shticky Guy
    Participant

    A quicky:

    Which English word begins and ends with the letters “und”?

    #1069911

    squeak
    Participant

    Subway

    #1069912

    tzaddiq
    Member

    underground

    #1069913

    tryinghard
    Member

    Underground

    #1069914

    squeak-

    Good hint.

    ? ? ?

    #1069915

    Shticky Guy-

    #1069916

    Shticky Guy
    Participant

    It’s as several smart posters have mentioned or alluded to, underground.

    More:

    1. Throw away the outside and cook the inside, then eat the outside and throw away the inside. What is it?

    2. What is the longest word in the

    dictionary?

    3. Take away my first letter, and I still sound the same. Take away my last letter, I still sound the same. Even take away my letter in the middle, I will still sound the same. I am a five letter word. What am I?

    #1069917

    squeak
    Participant

    Icot… two out of one, not a bad score.

    #1069918

    SaysMe
    Member

    corn

    smile? thats the laffy taffy answer 🙂

    hmmm

    #1069919

    Shticky Guy
    Participant

    SaysMe both your answers are correct. Well done.

    Who can attempt the third question (no tricks)

    #1069920

    SaysMe
    Member

    shticky- 5 letter word?? I’m stumped so far…

    #1069921

    E-O-M
    Participant

    Gnome?

    #1069922

    squeak

    The judges gave me credit for 1.5

    Shticky Guy

    Aisle.

    #1069923

    SaysMe
    Member

    nice ICOT! yep that TOTALLY stumped me. Thanks for sharing shticky.

    Though i think you have to order it as taking away first, then middle then last. Not that it would have helped me get it 🙂

    #1069924

    SaysMe-

    Thank you.

    Deleting letters 1(isle), 5(isl), 3(il) works if you pronounce isl as “isle”, which it is a legitimate abbreviation of. Pronounced as spelled, it would probably be “izzel”, which doesn’t quite make it 😛

    #1069925

    SaysMe
    Member

    icot- hmm interesting, i hadn’t thought of isl as an abbreviation. Most the google results seem to say it’s an abbreviation of island though. But i hear

    #1069926

    Shticky Guy
    Participant

    Hey aisle is close but not correct. Remove the first letter and you have isle which sounds the same. But then it doesnt work out. Removing the last letter leaves you with isl which us pronounced “is” with an l at the end. Then without the middle letter and you have il which is what you feel when you go to a doctor!

    The correct answer is empty! Can you think of any others?

    #1069927

    SaysMe
    Member

    shticky- empty??? That doesnt work so nicely either. mpty? mty? mt? Is as much [mmt] as isl is [izl]. I fail to see how you can remove more than the p.

    #1069928

    Shticky Guy
    Participant

    Because if you say in conversation the words empty, mpty, mty or mt,

    they sound the same, whereas isl or il do not sound the same as aisle. IMO of course!

    Haifagirl do you agree?

    #1069929

    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    squeak-

    Please forgive my poor choice of numbers, I would never intend to offend you in public.

    Is this better?

    79 77 71 58 88 107 131 65 100 112 74 104 162
    71 51 51 42 68 113 123 81 116 103 41 119 135
    125 187 159 129 183 110 190 21 63 167 211 71 297

    #1069931

    squeak
    Participant

    104 87 113 56 111 118 118 57 87 72 118 114 33 103 104 80 106 136

    101 65 88 26 113 99 83 28 65 61 107 87 26 112 113 89 109 135

    136 189 231 177 130 215 273 177 189 130 182 237 66 94 95 64 119 167

    #1069932

    squeak
    Participant

    And now if we could just get that last line of numbers, we’d have all the nuclear launch codes.

    #1069933

    do you know 2 mutar things that when you put them together they are assur?

    the answer is not milchig and fleshing

    #1069934

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/the-riddle-thread/page/5#post-13060

    This method is given in tosfos menachos 106a. Second tosfos on the amud. It way predates Gauss.

    #1069935

    Randomex
    Member

    Courtesy of Dr. Pepper, who says the cracker will

    be able to verify that he is indeed the author:

    92 105 102 78 61 118 140

    81 89 85 38 60 79 135

    155 189 189 243 77 287 187

    #1069936

    dch3
    Member

    Regarding the question about the pills… How could someone cut the pills perfectly in half of the person is in total darkness?

    #1069937

    Nu nu, so it wouldn’t be “perfectly…”

    Haifagirl, should that ellipsis have been outside the quotation marks?

    #1069938

    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    Squeak-

    Sorry once again for the bad choice of numbers. I hope no one cracked the code so you weren’t publicly embarrassed.

    I’m not even going to try again this year since I’ll have to wait another year to apologize if I offend you again.

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