June 16, 2011 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #597440mikehall12382Member
Do you celebrate it, what do you do?June 16, 2011 5:41 pm at 5:41 pm #1022494
I eat firecrackers.June 16, 2011 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #1022495
Rabbi Avigdor Miller, tzl, who said it is very innapropriate to celebrate “thanksgiving” in any way, and every effort should be made, if possible, to have nothing to do with it,
also said that every frum Jew should publicly celebrate July 4. on his shul they would display a us flag.June 16, 2011 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #1022496
Mod, why do you type tzl rather than ztl?June 16, 2011 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #1022497ha ha ha haMember
just to test all the spellcheckers out there 😉June 16, 2011 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #1022498
i dont know
do you think ztl is better?June 16, 2011 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #1022499mikehall12382Member
“I eat firecrackers.”
what’s the hecksher?June 16, 2011 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #1022500
OU-D.June 16, 2011 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #1022501zahavasdadParticipant
Rav Forst in Far Rockaway forbid even having a BBQ on July 4thJune 16, 2011 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm #1022502yossi z.Member
I am “celebrating” july 4th by moving into my new house right around then.
😀 Zuberman! 😀June 16, 2011 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #1022503nishtdayngesheftParticipant
Please see responses to the 14 other times this topic has been discussed.June 16, 2011 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #1022504
I would think ztl is more accurate Mod, as it adheres to the Hebrew acronym. I’m not sure how you came to use your version.June 16, 2011 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #1022505
im not sure how i came to use it either
ill switch to ztl (b’li neder) (or should i say neder b’li)
thanksJune 16, 2011 6:07 pm at 6:07 pm #1022506aries2756Participant
Yossi congrats where did you find your apartment?June 16, 2011 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #1022507cantoresqMember
If I remember, I put out my flag. We always have a barbecue. Nothing like good food, good beer and good friends to celebrate our freedom.June 16, 2011 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #1022508bptParticipant
The same way I celebrate other legal holidays (that Mrs BP does not have off)
With GRATITUDE!June 16, 2011 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm #1022509yossi z.Member
Aries: far rockaway. I was getting kinda desperate and a vacancy opened up in my friend’s apartment as one of the other guys is getting married
😀 Zuberman! 😀June 17, 2011 12:08 am at 12:08 am #1022510ItcheSrulikMember
I will follow all American customs. I will eat burnt meat and drink inferior beer. Then I will debate with my friends whether or not we should go to Manhattan for the fireworks (we always decide not to), eat more burnt meat, drink some less inferior beer, and go to maariv.June 17, 2011 12:58 am at 12:58 am #1022511mewhoParticipant
i celebrate every holiday that i am paid at work for and get the day off.
doesnt mean i celebrate it the way others do. but i sure do celebrate a free ”paid” day!June 17, 2011 2:33 am at 2:33 am #1022512minyan galMember
I don’t celebrate July 4 because I am Canadian. However, I DO celebrate July 1, which is Canada Day. I will put a flag on apartment balcony. There will be fireworks at night, but I won’t be going to any because they all start after Shabbat begins. However, I can often see great fireworks displays from downtown from the balcony of my place, so I may sit on my balcony about 10 PM and see what I can see.July 4, 2012 1:21 pm at 1:21 pm #1022515SayIDidIt™Participant
Happy Fourth of July!
G*d Bless America!!
SiDi™July 4, 2012 2:45 pm at 2:45 pm #1022516yummy cupcakeMember
we celebrate my grandmothers bday today! and on the side, we watch the fireworks that many ppl do down the block from us. we live on a corner, so its a pretty good view.July 4, 2012 6:51 pm at 6:51 pm #1022517ItcheSrulikMember
Happy birthday to your grandmother, ad meah v’esrim.July 4, 2012 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #1022518MorahRachMember
I celebrate it big time. America is my country bH I was born here!!! We have a big BBQ, a lot of my family and in laws get together, it’s a great day that we all have off of work, and can finally get together.July 4, 2012 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm #1022519yummy cupcakeMember
amen, thanks!July 4, 2012 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #1022520SpiderJerusalemParticipant
I watch the Mets loseJuly 4, 2012 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm #10225212scentsParticipant
Would you mind sharing what a BBQ and America being a great country have in common?
I also think that America is the greatest country, even greater is the fact that my grandparents were accepted and given a chance here in the USA.
However doing something that Goyim do is not something that I would prefer. We spend the day together playing and having fun (like each Sunday) we daven and learn as well. Use this day of rest to cut myself off from work and enjoy life.July 5, 2012 12:56 am at 12:56 am #1022522MorahRachMember
They don’t have anything to do with each other. But the weather is beautiful, we all have off, my husband works on Sundays so we can almost never BBQ all together, so my family and parents and in-laws get together, BBQ, catch up, talk politics etc. so it’s not really the BBQ, we are just getting together as an extended family, loving our country and being together.July 5, 2012 2:24 am at 2:24 am #1022523Sam2Participant
2scents: Once again, I think the point isn’t that the barbecue is L’kavod July 4th. July 4th is just a happy day to begin with to give Shevach V’hoda’ah LeHakadosh Baruch Hu for giving us a great place to live and follow the Torah relatively unhindered. Couple that with a hot summer day and no work and a barbecue is the natural conclusion.
I think this is a perfect example of the Goyim doing something logical. Are we supposed to be illogical because they do the logical thing. We don’t drive on the sidewalk and walk in the street, even though the Goyim do the exact opposite. We are not obligated to avoid doing everything they do (we walk and breathe and sleep just like they do). July 4th is just a logical day for a big barbecue. There’s nothing wrong with doing something logical.July 5, 2012 3:07 am at 3:07 am #1022524No One Mourns The WickedMember
“I watch the Mets lose”
Ugggh, I know 🙁
As an aside, Jew or not, we live in America and should celebrate our country’s freedom and tolerance.
God bless.July 3, 2014 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #1022525SayIDidIt™Participant
Happy Fourth of July!
G*d Bless America!!
SiDi™July 4, 2014 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #1022526147Participant
Hurricane Arthur has been a tremendous Chessed to Kedushas Shabbos, as Arthur has caused the Fireworks celebrations in Boston MA to be moved up from tonite Friday nite July 4th, to last nite Thursday nite July 3rd.
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