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December 20, 2011 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm #601215ronrsrMember
I heard that Kim Jong Il’s mother was Jewish & therefore he was a Jew. Any truth to this rumour?
A Happy Chanukah to all & to all a good night.
December 20, 2011 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #836875ronrsrMemberThis information comes from a credible source. I started the rumor myself.
December 20, 2011 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm #836876akupermaParticipantWell the Reform Jews (the ones we beat this time of year, they were called Helenists then), hold that any Jewish ancestry makes one Jewish. And certainly they don’t mind if someone isn’t following halacha. And given the ways genes tend to flow over time, and that some Jews have always been wandering off getting into mischief (and being into mischief, it does encourage gene flow). You let one guy lose in a population and 3000 years later, everyone is related to him (do the math, his descendants come to something like two to the hundreth power after a few millenia).
So to show we aren’t “sore winners”, we’ll use the Reform’s definitions of Jewishness (indeed, being so unfussy, they’ll probably want to extend it back to Noach, rather than just to Avraham)– and you can assume anyone you want in the world is Jewish.
December 20, 2011 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #836877Flatbush DudeMemberThat might explain some of their theories, and also the fact that a growing number of Reform Jews are not Jewish according to traditional halacha.
December 20, 2011 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm #836878ronrsrMemberthat’s funny, you don’t look Jewish.
December 20, 2011 11:01 pm at 11:01 pm #836879ItcheSrulikMemberAccording to the statistics of genealogy, it is a safe assumption that anyone from the iron age who has living descendants is probably the ancestor of us all.
Since we know that King David has living descendants today, it is a safe assumption that every single person alive today is descended from malchus beis Dovid. This doesn’t even change anyone’s status regarding yuchsin since we aren’t talking about patrilineal descent.
December 21, 2011 2:48 am at 2:48 am #836880☕️coffee addictParticipantItchie,
Secondly in refence to malchus, one has to be descended from Shlomo
December 21, 2011 4:34 am at 4:34 am #836881TurtleBurglarMemberI believe his name was originally Kim Jong Ilburg
December 21, 2011 5:11 am at 5:11 am #836882WIYMemberTurtleBurglar
“I believe his name was originally Kim Jong Ilburg”
Actually it was Kim Jong Illowitz lol
December 21, 2011 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #836883ItcheSrulikMembercoffee addict: I wasn’t saying everyone has claim to the malchus, I was saying everyone can claim the yichis “ich bin ah ihr ihr ihr … aynikel …”
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