Kim Jong Il – Jewish?

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  • #601215
    ronrsr
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    I heard that Kim Jong Il’s mother was Jewish & therefore he was a Jew. Any truth to this rumour?

    A Happy Chanukah to all & to all a good night.

    #836875
    ronrsr
    Member

    This information comes from a credible source. I started the rumor myself.

    #836876
    akuperma
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    Well the Reform Jews (the ones we beat this time of year, they were called Helenists then), hold that any Jewish ancestry makes one Jewish. And certainly they don’t mind if someone isn’t following halacha. And given the ways genes tend to flow over time, and that some Jews have always been wandering off getting into mischief (and being into mischief, it does encourage gene flow). You let one guy lose in a population and 3000 years later, everyone is related to him (do the math, his descendants come to something like two to the hundreth power after a few millenia).

    So to show we aren’t “sore winners”, we’ll use the Reform’s definitions of Jewishness (indeed, being so unfussy, they’ll probably want to extend it back to Noach, rather than just to Avraham)– and you can assume anyone you want in the world is Jewish.

    #836877

    That might explain some of their theories, and also the fact that a growing number of Reform Jews are not Jewish according to traditional halacha.

    #836878
    ronrsr
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    that’s funny, you don’t look Jewish.

    #836879
    ItcheSrulik
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    According to the statistics of genealogy, it is a safe assumption that anyone from the iron age who has living descendants is probably the ancestor of us all.

    Since we know that King David has living descendants today, it is a safe assumption that every single person alive today is descended from malchus beis Dovid. This doesn’t even change anyone’s status regarding yuchsin since we aren’t talking about patrilineal descent.

    #836880
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Itchie,

    Secondly in refence to malchus, one has to be descended from Shlomo

    #836881

    I believe his name was originally Kim Jong Ilburg

    #836882
    WIY
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    TurtleBurglar

    “I believe his name was originally Kim Jong Ilburg”

    Actually it was Kim Jong Illowitz lol

    #836883
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    coffee addict: I wasn’t saying everyone has claim to the malchus, I was saying everyone can claim the yichis “ich bin ah ihr ihr ihr … aynikel …”

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