October 6, 2018 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #1599654
Is the Phillips one blade a kosher shaver
Link removedOctober 6, 2018 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm #1599723
I would suggest calling a store like “The Buzz”. They probably have up to date information. The Star-K has an old article about shavers so you may want to call them.October 7, 2018 2:06 am at 2:06 am #1599800
It’s a clipper, so it might be more “kosher” than the real shavers. “Someone I know well” has been using it for months and even though it does a decent job, it isn’t a competition to Norelco (even with the lifts).October 7, 2018 2:08 am at 2:08 am #1599804
It’s really a trimmerOctober 7, 2018 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm #1600040
Has anyone asked a rabbi if it is kosher. Or know if a rabbi to askOctober 9, 2018 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #1602368
I heard rabbi forscheimer says it’s not kosher, I don’t know why though. Does anyone know what the problem could be? (It says on the website it doesn’t cut as close as a razor)October 9, 2018 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #1602399
can you ask him?October 10, 2018 8:15 am at 8:15 am #1602525
I emailed start k they said it is a kosher shaver and you can use it as long as you rely on the heter to shaveOctober 15, 2018 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm #1605212
Are there any triple headers out on the market currently that are not Lift n’ Cut, and therefore kosher for use? I need one desperately.October 16, 2018 12:58 am at 12:58 am #1605237
: “f. In all the electric shavers, the cutting process is one of contact between a moving blade and the head (a metal screen). Thus, from the point of view of the action performed, these machines are scissors. And this is the basis of our current position.” FROM “zomet. org.il, certifications and guidelines, electric shavers” . Just copy this and google it, the top most result at the top of the page will give you the above information, amongst other information. Just click on the picture of the shaver when you get there!
I read on another website some time ago that the saver should be dismantled in the “cutting section” and the
B\blades” should be blunted with a metal object and then reassembled, but could not find that website today!October 16, 2018 7:27 am at 7:27 am #1605292
Further to what I wrote above, the following are the last lines on star-k .org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/563/electric-shavers/
“So too, in a similar manner, R’ Moshe would often test the sharpness of an electric shaver’s blades. He would take a beard hair and test the blades! The shaver would be acceptable if the hair was held taut and was not split in half.
The only practical suggestion that can be given to one whose shaver failed this test is to dull the blades,…..done by taking a key or some other hard, flat instrument and running it along the sharp edge of the blade. Obviously, this shaver will not work as well; nevertheless, it is still effective and will transform a previously questionable shaver into one that is acceptable by the Poskim who permit the use of shavers. ”
BUT I believe the “foils” in the electric shavers are also very sharp! As could be the case also with the “guards”.
So it is not clear that even blunting the “blades” would be enough, as the presence of a sharp instrument in the form of a foil or a guard would not be “scissors”, but would be shaving with a blade, issur, prohibited!
Keep your beard, just trim with scissors, but not the corners!October 16, 2018 9:54 am at 9:54 am #1605353
As is often the case, this conversation is becoming too subjective. I WANT FACTS. Therefore i am requesting that someone kindly send me the citation in the Igros Moshe where this very subject matter is discussed. Thank you.October 16, 2018 9:54 am at 9:54 am #1605365
Which corners?October 16, 2018 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #1605944
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Therefore i am requesting that someone kindly send me the citation in the Igros Moshe where this very subject matter is discussed.
There is no teshuvah which discusses which shavets are muttar. Various talmidim of R’ Moshe’s have different opinions about which are muttar, probably based on which shavers they observed him approving and their interpretations of how it would apply to today’s shavers.October 16, 2018 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #1605932
I find it very telling that in over 8 hours nobody was able to show me an Igros Moshe on this issue. Everybody has their own comments, opinions, psak but no one can show me a psak from a true gadol b’Torah!October 16, 2018 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #1605447
See “Why Electric Shavers Are Permitted” at: http://www.koshershaver.info/Kuntris_Magazine_Teves_%205776.pdf
See also Meged Givos Olam (vol. 1, p. 96) where Rav Shurkin writes that he heard that the reason why Rav Moshe did not want to write this teshuvah permitting shaving machines in Igros Moshe is because while
(according to the Igros Moshe) it is technically permitted to shave, the tzurah of a Yid is with a beard.This attestation why Rav Moshe Feinstein zt’l did not publish his heter regarding shaving machines is also recorded in the popular publication Daf Yomi Digest, a daily resource for thousands of Daf Yomi learners
worldwide, compiled by the Ruben Shas Kollel and published by Chicago Center for Torah & Chesed, under the leadership of HaRav Yehoshua Eichenstein shlita and HaRav Pinchas Eichenstein shlita, Rosh Kollel. In their issue on Nazir daf 40, the following is documented as clarification of Rav Moshe Feinstein zt’l’s position:
“It is well known that Rav Moshe Feinstein, zt”l, did permit the use of certain electric shavers. Someone once approached him and asked why he didn’t write a teshuvah outlining the parameters of which shavers are permitted and which are not. ‘After all, your teshuvos cover every subject under the sun!’ Rav Moshe explained, ‘Although I permit this practice halachically, I don’t want to write a teshuvah formally
permitting this since the proper way is for a Jew to have a beard. Although this is not halachically prohibited, a Jew ought to grow a beard!’”
In the most recently published volume of responsa Shevet HaLevi (vol. 11, Y.D. section 198), Rav Shmuel Halevi Wosner zt’l (referred to by many as the Posek Hador) wrote: “With regard to shaving machines…it was agreed by all the Geonim…that there is no difference between [using] them and [using] a razor… The Gaon R. Moshe Feinstein sought to make a distinction between today’s [shaving machines] and a razor
and advanced a theory [in justification]…. That theory is not correct and has not been accepted ( אינה נכונה ולא נתקבלה aynah nechonah v’lo niskablah).”
In addition, in the 5778 issue of Agudas Yisroel of America’s Am HaTorah journal (5:9), Rav Pesach Eliyahu Falk (Rov in Gateshead and author of responsa Machzeh Eliyahu and many other halachic works)
testified that he personally heard from Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach zt’l how he rejected the reported reasoning of Rav Moshe Feinstein zt’l to be lenient regarding electric shavers.October 16, 2018 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #1605980
Thank you, Miriamson, for clarifying a lot of doubts in my mind
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