July 9, 2013 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #609999newsreaderParticipant
Does anyone have the lyrics please for that song?July 9, 2013 1:47 pm at 1:47 pm #964999pixelateMember
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“??? ????? ?????July 9, 2013 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #965000golferParticipant
Melech HaMoshiach is not from Shevet Levi.
Is he allowed on the roof of the Beis Hamikdash?July 9, 2013 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #965001DaMosheParticipant
golfer: Maybe he’ll be a b’chor, and will be able to do avodah then.July 9, 2013 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #965002🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipant
Do these lyrics have any source? To me they don’t seem to make sense in two respects:
1) I always assumed the Bais Hamikdash will be built after Moshiach comes.
2) According to the diagrams I’ve seen in sefarim the Bais Hamikdash doesn’t have a roof. Unless by roof it means he’ll be standing in the heavens.July 9, 2013 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #965003ToiParticipant
Gamanit- it does have a roof. mefurashe gemaras in zevachim.July 9, 2013 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #965004pixelateMember
The lyrics are from Medrish Rabba.July 9, 2013 10:34 pm at 10:34 pm #965005thinkingclearlyParticipant
It really with the word aleiyich. Not sure why that didn’t make it in to the song.July 9, 2013 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #965006newsreaderParticipant
thanks. they are interesting words, but I like the tune and I could never get the words clearJuly 9, 2013 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #965007WIYMember
1)Assume nothing. Everything is in seforim. Moshiach will arrive first according to many Rishonim. According to Rambam he will in fact oversee the building of the 3rd BH. (He doesn’t hold like Rashi and other Rishonim who hold it will descend in fire)
2)The BH has a roof. The courtyard obviously does not. Check google images you’ll see.July 10, 2013 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #965008🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipant
WIY- I didn’t assume based purely on my own opinion. I just wrote assume because that’s my style of writing. I don’t know why I thought there was no roof though, my mistake. I did find on chabad’s website the source for the lyrics. It’s from a yalkut shemoni. Can anyone explain though what it means? Why would he have to say that the geulah is here when the Bais Hamikdash is already built?July 10, 2013 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm #965009Sam2Participant
Gamanit: Either it’s meant to be a metaphor (which is clearly obvious, I think) or this Midrash is literal and assuming that the Beis HaMikdash can be rebuilt long enough before the Geulah that it wouldn’t be immediately obvious.
Or it’s like a rousing speech and the “Im Ein Atem Ma’aminim” is rhetorical.July 10, 2013 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #965010hatzolajewMember
Medrash rabbah yeshayahu perek SamuchJuly 10, 2013 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #965011dafbiyunParticipant
If you think about it, the medrash is astounding. The third bais hamikdash is here; Moshiach is standing on top of it telling us that the long awaited geulah has finally arrived … and yet” v’im ain atem maminim…”. How could anyone not belive at that point?July 10, 2013 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #965012dafbiyunParticipant
missed sam’s proposed pshat but still find the “rhetorical” explanation to be strained .July 10, 2013 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm #965013YW Moderator-42Moderator
Maybe we can resolve both pshatim by saying that mashiach will use Google SketchUp to build the 3rd Bais Hamikdash and then it will come out of his computer and descend from heaven in fire.July 10, 2013 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm #965016ChachamParticipant
there are many places mashma beis hamikdash will be rebuilt before moshiach. see ??????? ???? ??? ?”? ?”? and yerushalmi in berachos explains the reason the bracha of yerushalayim is before malchus bais david (es tzemach) is because first the beis hamikdash will be rebuilt and only afterwards will malchus bais david (moshiach) comeJuly 11, 2013 12:18 am at 12:18 am #965017squeakParticipant
Clearly as 42 alluded, moshiach will do some video editing to show himself being on top of the sketchelach of the bais hamikdosh. Then he will post the video on jewtube. The real bais hamikdosh will come later and of course he wont stand on its roof.July 11, 2013 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #965018yeshivaguy45Participant
This is in yalkut shemoni Yeshaya Tuf Tzaddik Tes, Samech. There was a thread on this several years ago. I was once looking for the mekor to this. So I googled Where are the words to anovim and I got this thread. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/source-for-anovim-anovim
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