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What about a person who wants to give more than 20% to tzedaka? Is that a problem? If so, why?
On 67:b in Kesuvos a story is recounted of Mar Ukva giving away half of his money to tzedaka while on his deathbed.
I fount the following posted on the halachafortoday site:
The Chofetz Chaim enumerated six exceptions to the aforementioned rule, instances where one may (and is encouraged to, and sometimes required to) spend beyond the 20% of his/her net worth, as follows:
a) In situations of life and death, one must spend down to his/her last penny to save a life.
b) In an area where poor people are prevalent, one may spend more than usual to help feed them.
c) An extremely wealthy person may spend beyond 20% of his/her worth, as doing so will still leave them with plenty of money to live comfortably.
d) One who gets a weekly paycheck from which they sustain themselves, may use the remainder for Tzedakah, after purchasing their weekly needs, even if that amount is more than 20% of the paycheck.
e) To support Torah learning, one is allowed to spend above the 20% (See Shita Mekubetzes Kesubos ibid.)
f) One who in any case spends beyond their means for unnecessary items, and buys every vain item that strikes their fancy, may do the same for Mitzvah expenditures, even to the point of spending much more than 20%
(Chofetz Chaim in Ahavas Chesed Vol. 2 Perek 20. See also Derech Emunah from rav Chaim Kanievsky Shlita Hilchos Matnas Aniyim, Perek 7 Os 26)
Any thoughts from the oilam on this?
(halevai the many ba’alei tzedaka of our community should have this shaila).
What if one has debts (not just mortgage) to pay off? Should he give ma’aser while accruing interest on debts?
to tomin tihye
1) I’ve heard or read can’t remember, that a rav paskinded ppl should get rid of all debt (besides morgage and financed cars etc) before giving tzedaka
2) if a person has no money to give, he can give masser to a poor person who then gives “his masser” back to you. so the 2 of you gave masser but didn’t lose anything.
3) you can technically give yourself masser, although it’s the least preferred method
4) ppl don’t know this but, there is no chiav no give masser outside of Israel at all! as a matter of fact i don’t know if the promise of wealth would even apply.
I can only try
you can start by looking at gemara shabbos 119A
look at halachos sefarim, where we paskin it’s mostly a minhag, if you need me to quote the halacha sefarim let me know.
Good stuff i will call you rabbi I can only try
like everything else it’s a machlakos, as far as the gemarah if masser applied outside e”y the gemarah would have answered the question as such. “why are ppl wealthy outside e”y? answer they give masser as well” if masser on money is an obligation that would have been the answer even if they were talking about things that grow.
the following hold it’s not a darrasa 1) maharil tshuva 54 as well as 56, 2) rav chaim yosef david azulai, 3) rav yechiel michal epstein. others hold it’s just a minhag 1) rav meir rothenburg teshuva 131, 2) rav yoel sirkes, 3) dayan weiss, 4) rav shlomo zalman auerbach.
for the record i always say bli neder so i can stop if c”v i have to.
on a side note ppl don’t realize masser and tzedaka are 2 different things, tzedaka is darrasa and an absolute must, but not masser.
ps if according to thoise that holds masser is darrasa why isn’t the promise coming true? the promise is we won’t be able to say stop enough times, even the wealthy ppl are not THAT wealthy!! and you can’t say anything that will include 100% of klay yisroel, there is no one now or ever before that was so wealthy they said enough already!
absolutely NO difference btw EY and Chutz l’Aretz
hello99
so how do you learn gemarah shabbos that implies there is a huge difference?
I can only try
wow you’re humble and honest too, hope your spouse appreceates.
although you can ask why on a lot of things, this is one thing that hashem says test me! so it’s very hard to understand why he’s failing his test?
also when i test you, and you fail i get something, when hashem says test me what do we get if he does fail?
as far as ask a rav why it appears the bracha doesn’t work, i have and they doin’t have an answer, the aruch hashulchan says he doesn’t know why it doesn’t work as well.
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