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    What’s Hashem’s message to us in all this craziness?

    #748145
    canine
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    Mike: to do tshuva.

    #748146
    MDG
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    This could go good or bad, or really bad.

    Pray for mercy.

    #748147
    SJSinNYC
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    Mike,

    I really think this is Moshiach.

    What I’ve read about Gog and Magog, all point towards these type of events.

    Maybe I’m wrong, but I tell my husband that our son is Moshiach ben Yosef (his name is Yosef LOL).

    #748148
    AinOhdMilvado
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    The message is, that things CAN change in HUGE ways, k’heref ayin (in the blink of an eye).

    Does it mean Mashiach is coming tomorrow?

    Maybe.

    But the point is, it COULD be.

    And if it’s not tomorrow, it could well be the day after, or next week or next month, but certainly SOON.

    So… the message is: Are you really ready for that day?!?

    #748149
    squeak
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    L’toieles, make sure you fill up your gas tank before Shabbos. The price next week will be a good 15-50 cents higher (since gas prices may lag oil prices for a short while).

    #748150
    jewish2
    Member

    moshiach is coming!

    #748151
    hudi
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    Do muslim revolutions fit in somehow with gog & magog?

    #748152
    observanteen
    Member

    We can always do teshuva. I don’t think that this is a sign from heaven that Moshiach’s around the corner (he’s coming anyway, Achake lo bechol yom sheyavo, but, I don’t think we should rely on THIS).

    #748153
    AinOhdMilvado
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    hudi…

    I once heard a vort about Gog/magog, that it comes from the concept of “GAG” i.e. roof.

    A roof is a physical thing that gives us (we think) physical protection.

    This is in contrast to the concept of Sukkah.

    A sukkah is a very frail structure that we stay in on Sukkos. It represents the idea that protection or security does NOT come from anything physical, it comes from HKB”H.

    So… The ultimate battle will be between those who believe in “GAG” (the physical) and those who believe in “SUKKAH” (the spiritual).

    It is well known that for moslems, even their “spiritual” is really physical – look at what they believe their “olam haba” – paradise – will be… let’s just call it “physical pleasures”.

    So – to answer your question…

    I would say that what is going on in the moslem world is the preface to that ultimate battle.

    #748155

    I found the following a website:

    Gedolei Torah have commented on the upheaval that is spreading through the Middle East, stating that the events are a clear proof on ikvesa deMeshicha.

    Rav Aharon Leib Shteinman was quoted in the Israeli chareidi media as attributing the instability in the region to contemptuous attitudes towards limud haTorah.

    Rav Shteinman explained that Chazal tell us that there is a connection between limud haTorah study and the stability and existence of the world.

    The one who does not see that Hashem is running the world, Rav Lefkowitz concluded, is not evil, but a fool.

    #748156
    guy-ocho
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    what type of message. text? didn’t get one.

    #748157

    you’ve gotta fix your recetion

    #748158
    guy-ocho
    Member

    you’ve gotta fix your recetion

    You gotta fix your spell-checker

    #748159
    hudi
    Participant

    AinOhdMilvado – I like (what you wrote I mean) 🙂

    #748160
    aries2756
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    My feeling is this: the more the world is against Israel and backs the Arab nations the more the truth will come out. All the Arab countries who are so convincing showing the world how great they are and how their way is the right way, spreading their word of “truth”…..the truth is now coming out as their people revolt against them telling the truth how they keep all the wealth to themselves and let their people suffer in poverty. The revolt from one nation across the other. Millions upon millions of Arabs revolting against their own regimes!!!! There is NO PEACE in their OWN nations and OBAMA wants to broker peace between ARABS and poor little Israel? He put his faith with the Arabs and now he does not know what to do? The UN always sides with the Arab nations, but what are they to do? Where are they now? Why are they not condemning the leaders who destroyed their own countries with their greed and selfishness? Where are the resolutions, why are all the other countries not getting together to condemn these Arabs for not bringing peace back to their nations?

    #748161
    ☕️coffee addict
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    I dont know about the other gedolim’s comments but I find it hard to believe this one is true!

    R Chaim is known to be very brief with his words, and his answers are usually 1-5 words

    :p> mbachur <d:

    #748162

    squeak-

    …make sure you fill up your gas tank before Shabbos. The price next week will be a good 15-50 cents higher…

    About forty cents right now.

    This is one time that I wish you hadn’t been right.

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