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  • #2004409
    ujm
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    Mochel Loch, Mochel Loch, Mochel Loch.

    #2129489
    ujm
    Participant

    Everyone please be mochel me for anything I ever did necessitating it.

    Mochel Loch, Mochel Loch, Mochel Loch.

    #2129499
    AviraDeArah
    Participant

    Me as well, if i ever offended anyone, i would like you to be mochel me

    #2323859
    ujm
    Participant

    Asking one and all for mechila for anything or anytime one was hurt or offended.

    #2324230
    DaMoshe
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    Joe, part of teshuva is accepting to change your behavior, and not repeat the sins you’ve done.
    Are you committing to actually changing?

    #2324723

    > anything or anytime

    list please

    #2449693
    ujm
    Participant

    Asking mechila for any real or perceived slights or misunderstanding or whatever anyone may have been hurt from by me.

    I am mochel those who feel they need or wish it, whether necessary or not.

    #2450093
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    Joseph, as I’ve written in past years, the main part of teshuva is accepting the wrong you did, and committing to changing your behavior. Because you’ve shown zero remorse for the terrible things you’ve written, and the people you’ve insulted, and there is no reason to believe that you will be changing your behavior, I do not forgive you.

    #2450094
    ZSK
    Participant

    @UJM – You’re going to have to do better than post on a forum and speak to people in person if you want actual forgiveness.

    #2450363
    ujm
    Participant

    DaMoshe/ZSK: My message wasn’t addressed to either of you, as I’ve done you no wrongs (real or even perceived). No need to flatter yourselves.

    #2450610
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    Joe, you wrote “any real or perceived slights or misunderstanding or whatever anyone may have been hurt from by me.”
    So when you said “ANY” and “ANYONE” you were lying?

    #2450659
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    Over the past 2 or 3 years, anti-Zionist fanatics
    here in the YWN Coffee Room have repeatedly stated
    that “ALL Mizrachi Jews are idol-worshippers”.

    When will the person who made those false
    Motzi Shem Ra attacks do teshuvah?

    Probably never, because lunatics do not do real teshuvah.
    And brainwashed fanatics also do not do real teshuvah.

    When will the people who failed to protest
    those false Motzi Shem Ra attacks do teshuvah?

    #2451317
    GadolHadofi
    Participant

    DaMoshe,

    YWN’s arch troll was told by his pretend posek, the made-up “R. Yitzchok Ehrentreu”, that he can lie and insult other Jews constantly without consequence. He only feels regret for not wasting his entire useless life doing so as opposed to 99.99% of it.

    #2451406
    ZSK
    Participant

    @UJM:

    Here’s the thing: Words have consequences, whether online or in person. You don’t seem to get that and think that you’re just some anonymous Charedi dude behind a screen. But we know that ex-CTLawyer is an in real life friend of yours. So you’re not.

    The blunt truth is that the sheer amount of Lashon Hara, Rechilus and Motzi Shem Ra that you have spewed against both the Dati Leumi (a community that does in fact include me) and Modern Orthodox communities does actually count. You had those thoughts, you wrote them down, you posted them. Ergo you are responsible for them just like I am responsible for whatever I have said. What you wrote/said are absolutely wrongs against those communities and I know this to be true because your vile slander has been seen on Social Media, and I’ve seen the responses.

    And yes, you do in fact owe me an in real life apology. You questioned my Yichus. That was not percieved, that was real – especially because you posted it in on a public forum.

    So no, you will have to do more.

    K’siva V’Chasima Tova.

    #2451455

    ZSK> You had those thoughts, you wrote them down, you posted them.

    look, these guys did not come up with these thoughts out of nothing. These are real views of some other people, except the other ones keep it among themselves and did not really have a chance to check those views out with others. They just keep them pure, unexamined within themselves.

    just an example from real life. One nice rabbi extended his hesed to have a hevrusa with me, we were learning nicely, he would bring tosfos and current poskim, I’ll bring some questions and real-life situations. At one point, I told him a story how someone reacted to me being Jewish in a remote location. He was very shocked – “are you saying you are wearing a kippah to your job”? So, this pretty reasonable and not closeted charedi internalized stories that all Jews who interact with non-Jews have to hide their kippot. Maybe, if you are not wearing a top hat, you are in that other group ….

    Back to our characters, I think they give us good inside information and help us understand what is happening inside their communities. No apology needed.

    #2451585
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    Dear Ex-CTLawyer,

    In the past, you tried to give me helpful advice.

    Now I try to return the favor,
    by trying to give you helpful advice:

    We now know that UJM is a real-life friend of yours.

    So when he says crazy statements that are:
    rodaif, mosair, onaas devarim, and Motzi Shem Ra,
    that reflects on YOU also, because YOU are his friend.

    For your own sake, I advise you to restrain him,
    or your reputation will certainly suffer.
    I hope that helps you.

    I wish you good decrees on Rosh HaShanah,
    and a very easy fast on Yom Kippur.

    Sincerely,
    SQUARE_ROOT

    #2451592
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @Square Root

    Over the past 2 or 3 weeks, Zionist fanatics
    here in the YWN Coffee Room have repeatedly stated
    that “Chareidim are simply not interested in participating in over 20 endeavors needed by the public”.

    When will the person who made those false
    Motzi Shem Ra attacks do teshuvah?

    Probably never, because lunatics do not do real teshuvah.
    And brainwashed fanatics also do not do real teshuvah.

    When will the people who failed to protest
    those false Motzi Shem Ra attacks do teshuvah?

    They retracted only one of the twenty – the one about hospitals ,
    and let all other motsi shem ra stand …..

    It is erev rosh hashana ….
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    #2451594
    ujm
    Participant

    DaMoshe: Anyone who was hurt is included; you weren’t (despite your pretenses), so it isn’t applicable.

    ZSK: Either you’re wildly confusing me with someone else or you’re pulling all those fictitious claims out of your hat. In fact, I hardly ever even discuss the DL community.

    In any event, I’ll open a new thread to continue pointing out both your prevarications and won’t be addressing it in this thread any further, in order to keep this thread for its original and positive intent for grace, which you both are trying to invalidate with the opposite. You can continue such discussion in the new thread, if you expect a response.

    #2451919
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    Joe, how would you know what I feel? You have absolutely no idea.
    You are the worst type of Rasha.
    I will continue to daven for you, three times each day.

    #2452212
    ZSK
    Participant

    @UJM: Negativity toward Zionism by definition includes denigrating the DL Tzibbur despite the very clear differences between DL and secularist Zionism, which is something you engage in on an almost daily basis. Don’t try to pull DARVO again.

    As for a thread about me, I’m touched you think I’m that important (I’m really not), but there’s no reason for that. It’s just engaging in actual Lashon Hara 4-5 days before Rosh HaShana. But that’s on you.

    As for this site, I’m done. Shana Tova.

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