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I am interested in starting a thread on Natural Healing. I would like to share ideas about what CR. Posters do to stay healthy. This could include choice of Herbal Teas, Supplements (Vitamin/Mineral, Herbal), Use of Essential Oils, Healthy Recipes… I will start I am taking a Complete Multi Vitamin, Vitamin D3, Calcium/Magnesium, Omega3 Fish Oils every morning except Shabbas,Chagim, and Fast Days. All these Supplements are certified Kosher.
There is really no reason to take large doses of vitamins unless you are specifically deficient from diet or disease; most are metabolized by your system and excreted in your urine.
Agree with Charlie.
most are metabolized by your system and excreted in your urine.
A, D, E, and K are fat-soluble and their levels in the body are strongly dose dependent. they are not primarily excreted in the urine.
therefore there are chronic overdosage syndromes associated with high doses.
most other vitamins are not stored in the body and the excess is excreted.
yankdownunder…
Why wouldn’t you take these supplements on Shabbas?
They are NOT medicine, they are FOOD supplements.
(btw… MOST, if not ALL of us are, unfortunately, “deficient from diet” and intelligently taking supplements is very important.)
AOM
the issue is not only refuah but tochain.
as these supplements are not diminished in their effect by missing a few doses, many poskim are not mater their use on Shabbos.
i dont know what “food supplement” means Halachically, but these items are not food. nor are they imbibed derech achilah.
I think they should be ok on shabbos, since it is not refuah, it is just entertainment.
I think they should be ok on shabbos, since it is not refuah, it is just entertainment.
That’s a good shailoh. If a pill’s only real benefit is to the sellers’ bank accounts, but someone thinks it’s effective, may he take it on shabbos? It might be shavi anafshei chaticha d’issura.
Preventive medicin is muter on shabbos.
Eliminating UNNECESSARY stress
We go to an Alternative M.D. once a year. He has many other degrees as well including Nutrition, Chiropratic, etc. One way to see what you’re deficient in is through bloodwork. And as far as what is “used” by the system, depends on the brand you are taking.
Also, recently my chiropractor began with a line of supplements. I have found that it is good to have background knowledge on your own as well, and “partner” with your nutritional practitioner. I’ve been studying nutritional supplements for many years.
Personally, currently taking, Multi Vit & Mineral, Omega’s, Cal/Mag, Folic, Vit D, CoQ10, Dig Enzymes, Green Stuff and Red Stuff (yummy), NAC, ProBiotics, and a new Immune boosting supplement that you can only get through a healthcare practioner which contains: Licorice, Ginseng, Skullcap, Ashgawhanda…
I think the other problem of taking pills/vitamins on shabbos is that you might grind it.
Oh boy, here we go again. Why is there such a propensity for frum jews to follow everything else but real medicine? First I saw the foot orthitic guy, He claimed he could treat diabetes with a foot orthitic!!! Then there is camaya man, I won’t even touch this one. Next we have the iridology idiot, Stare into my eyes and you will see…… MY EYE!! The best was a chiropractor (not knocking chiropractics, just some practitioners)who developed a machine (that’s only avail in HIS office) that (at least according to his full page ad in many very well known jewish circulars) can cure apnea. YES!!! the next time someone comes into the ED I am going to page for a stat chiropractor!! OK, I am being very silly, but doesn’t it seem that there are a lot of frum jews falling for this? Natureopathy, Chi healing, magnetic forces, phrenology, super water. Every other day I see some quack advertising some homeopathic (borders on avodah zarah) or natural medicine. Vitamins, minerals, and exercise are all wonderful, but people really… If something is wrong see a physician. Now, people always argue that “in ancient times they had remedies for some ailments”. Yes, they did. And they were based mostly on guessing. With the exception of Arabic learning that honed the scientific process, medicine was largely best guess. Even those herbs and mixtures that were helpful were only marginally so. Its a perpetuated fallacy that “ancient” medicine is better than modern medicine.
I know of many cases where people started taking natural supplementation and it was beneficial, unfortunately for a few it was actually detrimental as they did not consult enough with their MDS. Please make sure to be aware that natural medicines can have effects on prescribed medications and can even worsen conditions that they are made to help.
Eliminating UNNECESSARY stress
It also helps to eliminate necessary stress.
“therefore there are chronic overdosage syndromes associated with high doses.”
I’ve often wondered how common it is to have an overdose of vitamins. I’m pregnant and I don’t take prenatals because I’m too lazy, but I use vitamin ovedosing as my rationalization. Is it really safe for pregnant women to take such high doses of vitamins?
Many people are unaware but the implementation of certain drugs and vitamins such as Iron folic acid etc.. have been medically proven in countless clinical studies to prevent certain birth defects. (Of course Hashem has to help in all cases.) There are even vitamins that are made especially for pregant women available only through prescription please ask your doctor for guidance.And routine bloodwork throughout pregnancy will show deficiencies and possible over-dosage if that your concern. Hatzlacha and should be biShaa Tova
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