April 13, 2016 7:26 pm at 7:26 pm #1149053gavra_at_workParticipant
ya know that is certainly a cool lesson on people and their inner thoughts. He spoke about his desperation to have a kid in yeshiva because the doors have been closed for monetary reasons and to me “any suggestions” meant “Can anyone suggest how I can get my child into yeshiva for the sake of his spiritual and emotional health when most don’t want us for financial reasons” and you heard “Can anyone help us come up with money to pay for tuition so my son can go to yeshiva”
Doesn’t the first statement encompass the second? I was thinking of writing a “poor Bubbelah” emotional message, but I’m much too practical and not like that. If they don’t want him for financial reasons, the most direct method would be to solve the financial issues if possible. Even the OP agreed with his paragraph starting We have tried multiple things to get more parnasa like driving Uber. He is looking for an idea. Squeezing more money out is an idea (which may or may not apply here).
I just don’t agree with you that allowing people to learn torah in a torah environment that they cant afford will have an impact on that. I see them as very very separate issues.
Not sure what you mean. Anyone is always welcome to be in beis medrash, and even possibly go to a shiur. It is being part of a registered high school and structured environment, eating food and using space that the Yeshiva needs to pay for, that is the problem. If the kid wants to live in the BM (and is not a truant, which he would be at 14) what could the Yeshiva say?April 25, 2016 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #1149055DerShteygingYidParticipant
We have gotten 3 or 4 leads from friends (as well as the Ner Yisrael suggestion here). One looked promising but it turned out to be a poor fit and would have caused more issues than it would have solved. (Sorry I cannot give details.)
Does anyone know of a list of yeshivas along with contact information, preferably including email? It would be great to have something like that along with a short mission statement describing the kind of boys who go there.April 26, 2016 5:12 am at 5:12 am #1149056mw13Participant
Have you looked into Yeshivas Ohr Reuven of Monsey?
Or Rabbi Zweig’s yeshiva in Maimi?
link removedApril 26, 2016 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #1149057Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
I completely agree with Syag L’chochmah on this thread (as I often do). There has been a lot of let-them-eat-cake commenting going on here.
The very home costs that gavra mentioned should answer his question. If a person is making less than 100k annually and had to get a house for over 400k, then the money is going towards the house! And, there’s no way they’ll have 10k+ leftover per year for tuition!
The reality seems to be that frum communities in the US are either in areas where you have to be a millionaire, or areas where you have to worry about your kids being stabbed.April 26, 2016 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1149058
Neville, kindly let us know, please, specifically which US frum communities “have to worry about your kids being stabbed”.April 26, 2016 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #1149059
“have to worry about your kids being stabbed”.
There were severe riots last year in a major frum areaApril 26, 2016 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #1149060☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Same city, different neighborhoods.April 26, 2016 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #1149061mw13Participant
DSY, I attempted to post links to the websites of the Yeshivos that I had mentioned, but as you can see all that ended being posted was link removed. Guess I should have seen that coming. Still, nothing a couple of minutes on Google won’t solve.April 26, 2016 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #1149062
I think the frum communities live in the suburbs; not in Baltimore proper.April 26, 2016 3:09 pm at 3:09 pm #1149063beak glued shut with marsmallow fluffParticipant
Try Yeshivas R’ Chaim Berlin (718) 377-0777. They’re excellent in accommodating boys from different backgrounds, while remaining a regular mainstream yeshiva. As far as tuition breaks goes, I can’t tell you for sure, & I think their policy is like most yeshivos, however, I do know someone who was really doing poorly financially, and sent their children there. You would have to find out who to talk to.April 26, 2016 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #1149064
I know people in Baltimore and they were on lockdown.
The jewish area is Resitertown, but that I belive it part of Baltimore proper, just not the downtownApril 26, 2016 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #1149065thinkingclearlyParticipant
Sounds like your son is a perfect candidate for the remodeled Rochester NY yeshiva. They have done a great job, money is not an issue and they love out of town kids. Hatzlocha.April 26, 2016 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #1149066ZviHaKoheinMember
Torah Umesorah publishes a list of all day schools and Yeshiva HS.
Here are some ideas- chances are someone will accommodate you. And if not ask them for a couple refferals. There are dozens of YHS across the country.
In Baltimore besides Ner yisrael there is Neimos Hatorah and Toras Chaim.
Greater washington/ silver spring
Shaarei arazim and shaarei torah in monsey.
Hatzlacha rabba!April 26, 2016 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #1149067Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
Crown Heights, Waterbury, Baltimore, Washington Heights, etc.
When you grow up in an area with an extremely above average crime rate, you tend to think it’s normal. I grew up in an area where nobody even locks their doors.April 26, 2016 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #1149068☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant
I’d suggest calling Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen for advice.
You can find his number by Googling [simcha bunim cohen lakewood].April 26, 2016 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1149069
Neville, must one be a millionaire to live in Williamsburg, Marine Park, Flatbush, Monsey or Lakewood?April 26, 2016 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #1149070
Neville, must one be a millionaire to live in Williamsburg, Marine Park, Flatbush, Monsey or Lakewood?
In Brooklyn for sure you need to be a Millionaire unless you want to live in a dumpy basement. Anything decent costs a fortune.
Lakewood is a bit cheaper and people are leaving brooklyn for Lakewood for that reasonApril 26, 2016 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm #1149071☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant
family planning, which i never before had heard a frum yid suggest
I heard it mentioned as being practiced, if not necessarily suggested,
due to tuition – the conversation was mostly about children who are
in public school because their parents can’t afford tuition… 🙁April 27, 2016 1:45 am at 1:45 am #1149072
Is there a Yeshiva in the world that will refuse entry to a child because the parents can’t pay tuition, if refusing entry will result in the child attending public school?
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