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Hi, I need an English translation of one or two pages from the R”ma mifano (R’ Menachem Azariah). I have the pdf of the material, I just need them translated.
I will compensate for your effort/time.
Thanks
Eli
Please don’t tell us you need it before Rosh Hashana…
If you can wait until the Thursday after Tzom Gedalia, I can do it. I’m not that interested in being paid either :).
Ask the mods for my email and send it to me, I’ll try to do it. And no need to pay.
Same here. You can crowd source it to everyone who responds and use the translation you like best.
and then share the translation with everyone here …looking forward 🙂
Yes, if you post a link I’ll try and post a translation right here. As long as no one beats me to it 😉
I’ll try on Thurs B”N IYH.
Are we gonna match notes?
HaLeivi
Looking forward to matching notes and taking notes!
Please answer the following when you have a chance:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/help-me-forgive#post-306547
I did the first page until footnote aleph. It’s a bit academic since I wasn’t quite sure what you needed it for.
You can’t translate this kind of thing without some interpolation. Any words that I added for explanation are in italics. Verbatim quotes are in bold. Translation probably has more background info and stilted academic English than you need but it’s there to help anyone who wants to use it.
We begin with the gemara under discussion:
This mishnah is only dealing with long-term relationships like the RaMBaM’s description of a concubine. However, if the relationship was casual, chazal suspected her of having other relationships and therefore could not determine that the child was in fact his and therefore is not considered an heir for yibum and chalitza. In fact, the child is not considered acknowledged even if they were in jail together the whole time because of the halachic axiom of ??? ????????? ?????? .
Wow ok I’ll try to do it tonight. Great job ItcheSrulik, if I redo the first page it isn’t because I don’t like yours, it’s just because it’ll be easier for me that way to get the feel of it.
Go right ahead. Academic English is not the best language for learning rishonim. I was just worried that OP or whoever he needs it for doesn’t speak yeshivish. And sorry about the formatting. I typed it up with bold and italics as indicated but I forgot to put them back when I pasted it in to post.
Ok, here goes. I did my best and tried to keep it as exact as possible, but it wound up a bit free at spots. I did keep some simple words, if you are unfamiliar with them just say so and I’ll write up a short glossary of terms. This is until the bottom paragraph of the second page, I hope to finish it tomorrow. Just gotta get some shut-eye now:) Oh and please excuse me if there are spelling or grammatical errors, I am falling asleep now and only posting this part just in case you want it already. Iy”h I’ll fix it up tomorrow.
Itche, about the academic English, LOL, yup.
[to yibum]
[And the son of a slave-woman does not inherit] unless he says I initially freed his mother, [and then he is believed]
[casually]
AND IF WE DO know that he designated her for him, we have not heard that the Rambam and his company should talk of her to disqualify the child, for they spoke generally of the standard slave-woman who is content with being vacant. Thus the disagreement has been dissolved and all the words of the Sages are well-established.
MODS: If possible, please delete my previous post. This is the revised and fuller version.
Ok, here is the complete perek. I hope the Rama will forgive me if I have made any mistakes.
[to yibum]
[And the son of a slave-woman does not inherit] unless he says I initially freed his mother, [and then he is believed]
[casually]
AND IF WE DO know that he designated her for him, we have not heard that the Rambam and his company should talk of her to disqualify the child, for they spoke generally of the standard slave-woman who is content with being vacant. Thus the disagreement has been dissolved and all the words of the Sages are well-established.
[the son] [even]
Wow! this is great and almost all literal. I have a couple comments if you want them though.
Mods?
Why am I starting to wonder if this is a good idea?
Thanx, and sure.
eli9-
It does appear that that is what he is saying; that is how I understood it too. As of now I can’t think of a good answer to your question.
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