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rescue said: “Neutorei karta a bunch of blind sheeple I think they are a living example of what happens when you fallow the crowd and don’t think for yourself.”
You are overly fixated on this one issue. Out of all of the problems NK have, this is NOT one of them. Their biggest problem is that they NEVER follow the crowd, because even the Satmar “crowd” doesn’t do the insane things they do.
SomeJew asked: “I never saw NK say anything negative or politically sided to their host country. not in US, UK, or Iran. Can you please point me to ANY protest by anyone in NK against the US or in support of any foreign government over their current location?”
The US is currently at war with Iran, a country that openly proclaims “Death to America”. They are marching with placards of “Hands off Iran”. How is that not ?????? Even if it is legal, and Goyim also do it, the ????? against ????? ?????? would prohibit Jews from doing such a thing.
For anyone who happened to have read the latest rant from @GadolHadofi
It is actually the Zionists, not NK, that are analogous to Abba Sikra’s group, the baryonim. Both groups wrought unparalleled destruction to the Jews.It’s stunning that this idol so thoroughly corrupts its worshipers’ minds that one could compare NK to the Baryonim when it is so obviously the Zionists that are the baryonim while the NK is protesting exactly that.
NK could very possibly have saved lives by showing the world the truth that Jews are not responsible for anything the Zionists do. Or not. But to call them all sorts of unwarranted names while kissing and bowing to the idol is a stunning inversion of reality.
@n0mesorah
There was one point you made which perhaps should have been better addressed. Sorry I missed that:
You asked how their protests show the world that Jews should not be blamed for anything Zionists do. The answer, which I thought was obvious – but perhaps was not – is that when gentiles see Jews – clearly Jewish, too, not JINO – clearly protesting against whatever it is the Zionists do, that illustrates the obvious fact that at least some Jews do not agree with the Zionists; therefore, if a gentile has a problem with anything the Zionists do, he should address that to the Zionist idol itself, not to Jewish synagogues and the like which have nothing to do with Zionism.@ GadolHadofi,
You know what’s even more sickening?
The unbridled hatred you contain for them, despite not being able to point out one halacha they have transgressed.
However much some of us may disagree with their tactics/methods/hashkafa etc, there is no one halacha that they have clearly been in transgression of.
Even the signs they wear on marches/protests they attend on Shabbat, is not a clear violation of halacha, as arguably (yes not clear but arguably) it is a grey area as they are wearing them literally, but it isn’t really clothing, so it is unclear.What Torah (not nationalistic hegelical 18th century anti-Semitic zionism) perspective can you offer that would warrant your unbridled hatred to them, that can only be matched by some of the worst anti-Semites in history?
And if you want to go saying hitchabrut L’resha’im, than go take a look in the mirror.
To support, speak fondly of, describe in a positive term -people- and policies/politics that seek the destruction and replacement of Judaism, is what is real mitchaber L’Resha’im.The reason why some would come out and display what you would term as support for NK is the horrible and disgusting unwarranted hatred people display against them.
You want to disagree? Fine.
Say what they do is distasteful and you don’t get it? Fine.
But there is a red line.Can you point me to somewhere that you see NK with a “Hands off Iran” placard? I never saw such a thing and would find it completly shocking and out of character of them. They always – in public protests – focus on the singular true point that Israel does not represent Jews and Judaism is not Zionism.
I am very serious in asking if you can find me such a source. For the above reasons, I don’t believe that you are correct, but I am honest enough to look at any evidence you have.
Yaakov yosef, they fallow their own crowd and have very strict rules among themsleves. You really need to calm down with jumping down people’s throughts. Just because they don’t fallow the crowd or any other crowd they still have their own extrmism among themsleves. And if you observe them you can see that.
Yaakove yosef are you serious.
I saw them once in my life for five minutes that doesn’t mean I’m fixated on nothing. Your constantly assuming. Calm down. And yes this is exactly what I observed when I saw them. It was very clear for everyone to see. Maybe your blind. That’s ok“Even the signs they wear on marches/protests they attend on Shabbat, is not a clear violation of halacha, as arguably (yes not clear but arguably) it is a grey area as they are wearing them literally, but it isn’t really clothing, so it is unclear.”
Signs certainly aren’t clothing so the vile Nazi Kapos who pretend to be frum make up their own Hilchos Shabbos in the name of their fake god. They have nobody to ask since no reputable Posek wants anything to do with these insane quislings.
somejew, march 7, 2026 demo generates headlines:
#Jews condemning the Zionist attack on #Iran and calling for “Hands Off Iran” at a protest in #Unionsquare, NYC, on Saturday, March 7, 2026.I see on the pictures:
Jews worldwide say: we condemn Israel’s war on Iran
Jews worldwide say: we condemn Israel’s war on Gaza
Judaism demands freedom for Gaza and all palestine
Judaism demands all palestine return to palestinian sovereignty
stop the war on iran
peace with iranin that video, every sign that NK is wearing is explicitly about zionism and israel. There is nothing on their signs critical of any other country or even telling other countries what to do. All other general signage of “stop the war on iran” is clearly from different groups far away in video.
Dear Hakatan,
1) I am ignorant about the motives of NK to attend such a protest. Matters of religious principle should lead to determination; not protest. Is this really just so non-jews should think better of us? I find that hard to believe. So tell us, why does NK attend these protests?
2) I doubt that there is any jew-loving effect among the general populace from whatever NK does. And if there is such a benefit I find it meaningless. There will always be plenty of haters anyways.
3) Some Zionists also claim that the non9jews think better of us because of _______, __________, and ________ . Every group can make this argument. In my opinion, it is cheap and pointless.
Hakatan,
You have a serious obsession with your self designated mission to educate the world about the evil zionists. You have let it take complete control of you. It’s scary. Do you realize what you have become? Your Rov and your rabbeim (I know who they are) would never approve of your writing.@n0mesorah:
1. At times, it is halachically appropriate to protest, of course. There are also practical reasons to protest, which were mentioned earlier in this thread.
No, it’s not just so that they should “think better” of us. It’s so that they should know better than to attempt to harm any Jew due to any problem they might have with Zionism or its “State”.2. The goal is not to get anyone to “love” Jews. The goal is to get them to not wrongly judge Jews based on anything the Zionists do or don’t do. Yes, if any goy chooses to hate Jews then he could make that choice; but the goal, again, is that he should not be making that choice based on any problem he has with the Zionists and its “State”.
3. Any group can make any argument they want about wanting non-Jews to think better of us. But this is more basic, as mentioned numerous times: it’s to prevent non-Jews from wrongly thinking badly of us as a result of what the Zionists do or don’t do. We are not to be blamed for anything the Zionists do or don’t do. NK – by way of their protests, etc. – is simply informing the world of that basic fact that the Jews are not to be blamed for anything the Zionists do or don’t do. It’s stating very clearly that the Zionists obviously do not represent them and it is clear that they are Jews.
@jonnysmith:
You are mistaken in your assessment, as that is not my “mission”, but you’re welcome to contact me offline, if you’d like, rather than publicly personally criticize (and wrongly so).Nobody should be labeling clearly frum Jews – misguided (and harmless) as they may be – as “goyim”, “Muslims”, “terrorists” and the like, which was my objection to this OP.
somejew, everything I quoted is from images with signs held by NK-looking people. I don’t know who of them are true NK and who are not. Maybe you are looking at some other imagers where they did not post everything.
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