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rescue said: “Neutorei karta a bunch of blind sheeple I think they are a living example of what happens when you fallow the crowd and don’t think for yourself.”
You are overly fixated on this one issue. Out of all of the problems NK have, this is NOT one of them. Their biggest problem is that they NEVER follow the crowd, because even the Satmar “crowd” doesn’t do the insane things they do.
SomeJew asked: “I never saw NK say anything negative or politically sided to their host country. not in US, UK, or Iran. Can you please point me to ANY protest by anyone in NK against the US or in support of any foreign government over their current location?”
The US is currently at war with Iran, a country that openly proclaims “Death to America”. They are marching with placards of “Hands off Iran”. How is that not מרידה? Even if it is legal, and Goyim also do it, the שבועה against מרידה באומות would prohibit Jews from doing such a thing.
For anyone who happened to have read the latest rant from @GadolHadofi
It is actually the Zionists, not NK, that are analogous to Abba Sikra’s group, the baryonim. Both groups wrought unparalleled destruction to the Jews.It’s stunning that this idol so thoroughly corrupts its worshipers’ minds that one could compare NK to the Baryonim when it is so obviously the Zionists that are the baryonim while the NK is protesting exactly that.
NK could very possibly have saved lives by showing the world the truth that Jews are not responsible for anything the Zionists do. Or not. But to call them all sorts of unwarranted names while kissing and bowing to the idol is a stunning inversion of reality.
@n0mesorah
There was one point you made which perhaps should have been better addressed. Sorry I missed that:
You asked how their protests show the world that Jews should not be blamed for anything Zionists do. The answer, which I thought was obvious – but perhaps was not – is that when gentiles see Jews – clearly Jewish, too, not JINO – clearly protesting against whatever it is the Zionists do, that illustrates the obvious fact that at least some Jews do not agree with the Zionists; therefore, if a gentile has a problem with anything the Zionists do, he should address that to the Zionist idol itself, not to Jewish synagogues and the like which have nothing to do with Zionism.@ GadolHadofi,
You know what’s even more sickening?
The unbridled hatred you contain for them, despite not being able to point out one halacha they have transgressed.
However much some of us may disagree with their tactics/methods/hashkafa etc, there is no one halacha that they have clearly been in transgression of.
Even the signs they wear on marches/protests they attend on Shabbat, is not a clear violation of halacha, as arguably (yes not clear but arguably) it is a grey area as they are wearing them literally, but it isn’t really clothing, so it is unclear.What Torah (not nationalistic hegelical 18th century anti-Semitic zionism) perspective can you offer that would warrant your unbridled hatred to them, that can only be matched by some of the worst anti-Semites in history?
And if you want to go saying hitchabrut L’resha’im, than go take a look in the mirror.
To support, speak fondly of, describe in a positive term -people- and policies/politics that seek the destruction and replacement of Judaism, is what is real mitchaber L’Resha’im.The reason why some would come out and display what you would term as support for NK is the horrible and disgusting unwarranted hatred people display against them.
You want to disagree? Fine.
Say what they do is distasteful and you don’t get it? Fine.
But there is a red line.Can you point me to somewhere that you see NK with a “Hands off Iran” placard? I never saw such a thing and would find it completly shocking and out of character of them. They always – in public protests – focus on the singular true point that Israel does not represent Jews and Judaism is not Zionism.
I am very serious in asking if you can find me such a source. For the above reasons, I don’t believe that you are correct, but I am honest enough to look at any evidence you have.
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