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WHY YOU SHOULD SAY ???? ???
The ??? and the ????,write in the first Siman
of the entire Shulchan Aruch ” ??? ????” (It’s good
to say ???? ??? etc.)When the ??? and the ???? both say it’s good then
it must be good.The ???? ????? (sk 13) quotes the ??? ????
“The reason to say it so to believe that Parnasa
comes with ????? ?????.” The ?”? explains,
to believe that increase in ??????? doesn’t
help to increase Parnasa.Seems the reason to say it is not for the Segula
but to ingrain the proper ????? re ParnasaThe ????? quotes the ??????? in ??’ ?????
(???? ????? couldn’t find it and it hasn’t been found
since) “Whoever says ???? ??? EVERY DAY*
will be guaranteed not to miss his ??????. (Parnasa)The ???”? adds “???? ???” I am a guarantor.
Perhaps, this Segula acts as a reward for attempting
to ingrain the proper ????? in ????? ?????
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*not only on Tuesday Parshas BeshalachWHY YOU SHOULD NOT SAY PARSHAS HAMAN
Why not to say ???? ???Shulchan Aruch ( O.Ch 1: 23) “It is good to say ???? ???. So that you will believe, Parnasa is ????? ?????
The ???? ????? writes,” Our Minhag is not to say it (???? ???). There is no mention of ???? ??? in Shas ”
The ?????? claims there is a ??????? (Brachos) that speaks about the Segula of ???? ???.” The ???? ????? writes
he couldn’t find this ???????. (It hasn’t been found since) He continues, The reason for not saying ???? ??? is threefold
a) The Parsha mentions numerous times the Bnai Yisroel’s
complaints of not having food.
b) The complaints on the ??
c) The Midrash writes Hashem said “I don’t need your
complaints and not your praises.” (on the ??)
The (???? ????? (?:?”? ?”? writes ” Someone who is a ??? ???? and has a heart to understand & learn should rather learn than to say the ?????? & ????? printed in the Siddurim.
The ?? ????? quotes from the ????”?, ??? ??????, (??”? ??”?) & ???? ??? who all claim that learning Torah takes precedence over saying these ??????.
According to the ????*, If the sole purpose of saying the Parsha, is to have the Segulah of Parnasah, it is considered ?????. “They make the Divrei Torah a ????? ???? and it isn’t but a ????? ????”
The farmer explained the Selichos prayer. “This is a special prayer we say so the cows should produce lots of milk, The chickens should produce lots of large eggs.The geese should produce large fatty livers etc.”[based on the tales of R. Shmuel Munkes zt”l Talmid of Baal Hatanya]
Many ads today in the Frum media, seems like they are reaching to the masses who think exactly like the farmer.
*(Hl. Avoda Zarah (Perek 11)
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torasabaSee Rabbi Hoffman’s article:
If you read his article he addresses everyone of your issues which I know is found on another website. Just curious is to where you have semichah from.
This subject gets center stage every year. The question is not whether there is a segula in reciting Parshas Hamon. There is ample reference to this. The issue is whether there is any significance whatsoever to Tuesday of Parshas Beshalach.
I have yet to see a single reputable source for this. I am acquainted with a rather big Talmid Chochom, a Rosh Yeshiva in one of the Chassidishe Yeshivos, who stated publicly that he remembers exactly when this “minhag” was formed. It was approximately in 1947, and was part of a casual conversation among a group of baalei batim in a shul on the Lower East Side.
Meanwhile, virtually any reference to Tuesday Beshalach postdates that. I would be open to any factual challenge to this.
BTW, I also know a devoutly Chassidishe family that comes from Rimanov, and are also descendants of Reb Mendele ZT”L, and they know nothing of any such mesora from Reb Mendele about this “minhag” of Tuesday Beshalach. Again, I am open to any factual challenge.
Meanwhile, I believe there is no such minhag, and that is was fabricated. It is attributed to Reb Mendele, who was an advocate to recite Parshas Hamon every day. The originator had the mazel, and his fabrication went viral.
TLIK: “It was approximately in 1947, and was part of a casual conversation among a group of baalei batim in a shul on the Lower East Side.”
So you are disputing what Rabbi Hoffman wrote that “some trace it to Rav Menachem Mendel of Riminov (1745-1815), one of the five main disciples of the Rebbe Elimelech of Lisensk. Others trace it to Rav Shalom of Stropkov (1855-1940) (See Yisroel V’Hazmanim, Rav Dovid Rossov p. 291). It is clear, however, that Rav Shalom was quoting the Riminover and did not make it up himself. The original Sfer of the Riminover is not easily accessible as only the first volume is readily extant.”
If it was written in a sefer of R’ Mendel that we no longer have, how can you be certain that he descendants know or don’t know of it?
Maybe it’s a segula maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s a true minhag, maybe not. Is there anything wrong with spending 5 minutes reading pesukim of the torah with it’s targum?
iacisrmma:
You wrote: “If it was written in a sefer of R’ Mendel that we no longer have, how can you be certain that he descendants know or don’t know of it?”
These descendants told me so, clearly. They are a family of very chassishe Yidden, Bnei Torah.
Next, Reb Mendele advocated reciting it every day. That is not disputed. It has sources in kadmonim. Reb Mendele was quite busy with Parshas Hamon, saying Divrei Torah on just this topic for many years. There is no challenge to that. All I said was that the Tuesday Beshalach is a fabrication. And I have witnesses who observed this fabrication being developed. Reciting Parshas Hamon is no more a segula that day than if it is recited any other day of the year. It is a myth gone viral. People like to create minhagim, and this is wrong.
mfmf: You state “He, therefore, assumes that it’s likely that it does not originate from R.M. Miriminov.” The word “assumes” looms big. He cannot state it outright nor can you.
TLIK: It’s amazing to me that those witnesses do not come forward to state their account. If they witnessed it what are they afraid of? Doesn’t the torah state that ????????? | ??????? ??????? ???? ????????? ????????????????? ??????? ???????: Right now you are giving us hearsay. Unless they are willing to say this publicly, I have no reason to believe them.
since when did haman harasha have a parsha?
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