October 23, 2022 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm #2131892eishis chayilParticipant
who are you voting for in Nov. 8 elections for NY governor?
(u.s. senate? u.s. congress, your district?)
I will vote for zeldin, so will my husband, my 3 kids over 18. we are 5 votes in total.
(for senate though I will vote for Schumer, husband and kids probably not, the rest I will vote for the republican)October 24, 2022 12:01 am at 12:01 am #2131915
I’m not voting for anyone. I’m not voting for Zeldin because he has an immoral running mate. I do not vote for those who support immorality.October 24, 2022 12:02 am at 12:02 am #2131912
Zeldin. (Nevertheless, Hochul will unfortunately win.)October 24, 2022 1:20 am at 1:20 am #2131926
Ujm, zeldin has been gaining momentum – the debate that they finally agreed upon will make a pretty significant difference, imo.
All the polls show 6-9% are undecided; a strong debate performance against someone who has no experience debating might turn the tide further in his favor.October 24, 2022 9:46 am at 9:46 am #2132006yaakov doeParticipant
I will not vote for the intermarried Jew who has a lesbian running made. There are something I just can’t do.October 24, 2022 10:35 am at 10:35 am #2132039lakewhutParticipant
So you’ll vote for a communist who is making the state unsafe and wants to impose on yeshivas that they should teach things that are antithetical to Judaism instead?October 24, 2022 11:17 am at 11:17 am #2132041
>>>I will not vote for the intermarried Jew who has a lesbian running made.
Is that an ironclad policy of yours or only when the the intermarried Jew is a Republican?
Did you also vote against Chuck Schumer and Spitzer all those other intermarried Jews when they ran as Democrats? (Schumer claims his wife converted but I’m sure it was not an halachic conversion)October 24, 2022 11:17 am at 11:17 am #2132042
>>>I’m not voting for anyone. I’m not voting for Zeldin because he has an immoral running mate. I do not vote for those who support immorality.
So who DO you vote for? Almost every democrat supports giving people who engage in that type of behavior supreme right that marginalize those of everyone else. Zeldin’s running mate may be guilty of such behavior but pushing it on others is not part of her agenda. And lieutenant governor of NYS is an independently elected positionOctober 24, 2022 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #2132047
The lieutenant governor of NYS is not an independently elected position. It has it’s own primary, but in the general election , it is jointly elected with governor.October 24, 2022 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #2132055
“Schumer claims his wife converted but I’m sure it was not an halachic conversion”
It isn’t possible to convert without becoming observant of the 613.October 24, 2022 1:16 pm at 1:16 pm #2132057
smerel is correct. You can vote for Zeldin without voting for the Lieutenant Governor.
And smerel is correct that Mr. Doe above is a hypocrite for voting for Democrats who are intermarried. Of course he will neither confirm nor deny it, in order to leave it ambiguous. He can’t deny the truth, but neither can he claim a lie. So he’ll leave it unaddressed.October 24, 2022 1:16 pm at 1:16 pm #2132063yaakov doeParticipant
Smerel, where did you ever get the idea that Chuck Schumer’s wife isn’t Jewish? Iris is the daughter of
Melvin Weinshall and Ruth Weinshall of Brooklyn, parents with obviously Jewish names. There is a possibility that Ruth’s mother wasn’t Jewish, but 90 or so years ago intermarriage was a rarity.
I did not vote for Spitzer but have voted for Schumer who I’ve known since he first ran for Assembly many years ago.October 24, 2022 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm #2132101
Intermarriage was already common in 19th century Germany.October 24, 2022 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #2132102
There’s nothing wrong with voting for a person who might personally be rasha but who will, whether due to political reasons or conviction, do the job that we want and protect the Torah world from harm. It’s a mitzvah to do so.
However, voting for an “upstanding” goy or even a frum jew with fabric on hia head who advances abortion, allows our yeshivos to be attacked, and destroying the fabric of society with alphabet soup ideology, is definitely assur.
Zeldin probably picked Esposito because he wanted to scrounge at whatever crumbs he could get – NY is a super liberal state. It was political. I doubt he personally is a lover of the L part of LGBT – he’ll definitely hold back the T part from hurting our lives any more than it already has.October 24, 2022 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #2132142
Smerel, I don’t vote for Democrats, period. Democrat politicians by definition support immorality and I would never vote from someone from that party.October 24, 2022 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #2132159Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Most opinions here are emotional outcries. Voting is our interaction with non-Jewish world and is often a complicated matter. It is not just short-term gain or preference but long-term effect on our community and relationship I suggest with non-Jews. Given that this one is close and complicated,
I suggest you contact a talmid chacham who is a bokeh in these issues.October 24, 2022 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm #2132162Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
one example quoted in Chabad Fredrike Rebbe memoirs: when Russia took over Vilna district at the time of Khmelnitsky, Polish landowners abandoned their property and ran to Poland. Some Jews rented the land from the Russian government. Litvishe Rabonim issued a takanah that Jews should send a portion of the profit to the Polish owners, or put money aside if returning money immediately is impossible. This worked long-term.October 24, 2022 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #2132206
Did that stop you for voting for Biden’s running mate?
I guess not 🙄October 25, 2022 12:02 am at 12:02 am #2132236mdd1Participant
Ujm, Germany is a separate story. There the assimilation started much earlier. Yaakov Doe was referring to the Eastern- European Jews who immigrated to the US.October 26, 2022 10:50 am at 10:50 am #2132629
Sorry , I didn’t catch the grand plan that Zeldin has to reduce crime in NYC. Does anybody know of his plans ?
The 30 day “plan” sounds like a sick joke to solve a real problem.
Does he have any plans to do anything or just pointing out problems?October 26, 2022 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm #2132699lakewhutParticipant
Well for one there won’t be cashless bail that when someone gets stabbed on the train the criminal won’t be released into the streets that day. That’s one for sure. The police will be allowed to do their jobs.October 26, 2022 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #2132712
Cashless bail is a law. He can’t just declare it null and void.
His trick was to create a 30 day emergency on crime and suspend cashless bail FOR 30 DAYS.
That is not a plan to stop crime.
It is a sick joke.
He has no plan.
Police can do their jobs right now. Nobody is stopping them.October 26, 2022 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #2132729Dr. PepperParticipant
Welcome back, hope you had an inspirational Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.
In case you missed his plan you can rewatch the debate. For starters he plans to get rid of the DA and end cashless bail on day 1.October 26, 2022 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #2132749
How does a governor fire a DA? I was told by a police officer that I know personally that DAs are elected and can’t be firedOctober 26, 2022 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #2132759
There appears to be a process that the Governor can initiate in order to dismiss a district attorney. But it is not simple and straight forward as walking in on day one and firing him. It will be a drawn out process and Bragg will be given the ability to protest during the process.
Initiating the process 10 months after Bragg was elected to his position by the voters , is politically risky. Zeldin doesn’t care because in 2020 he tried to undermine the will of the voters of the US by not certifying the presidential elections and he still won his parties nomination for governor.October 26, 2022 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #2132766
Florida Governor DeSamtis recently fired an Far Left DA who was elected.October 26, 2022 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #2132786Dr. PepperParticipant
Are you just going to go ahead and vote for the people who created this mess in the first place since you think his plan might not work?October 26, 2022 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #2132792
Hochul repeatedly said that Zeldin wouldn’t be able to fire the DA, and tied it into her “zeldin wants to be above the electorate” strategy, tieing it into zeldins questioning the election results of two states.
Zeldin fired back that he would have the power to fire him if he can show that the DA is not doing his mandated job, evidence of which would be repeat offenders who were let out without bail.October 26, 2022 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #2132824
It is not a normal response, based on past precedent, for a Governor to fire a DA when they are not complying with their wishes. It has never happened in recent history in NY.
A similar case occurred in 1996 when Pataki was upset that Bronx District Attorney, Robert T. Johnson would not seek the death penalty in a case of a murdered Police Officer. It was attempted to be handled privately and Pataki attempted to work with Johnson to have him remove himself from the case.
In the end, Johnson refused, and Pataki removed him FROM THE CASE.
The removal went to court and in the end a state judge upheld Gov. George E. Pataki’s removal of the Bronx District Attorney from prosecuting the case – a rare step that the Governor took because he believed the District Attorney would not seek the death penalty.
If Zeldin was acting in a normal fashion, he would work with Braggs to demand cash bail on these cases or remove him from those cases.
But as I said before , in 2020 he tried to undermine the will of the voters of the US by not certifying the presidential elections and he still won his parties nomination for governor.October 26, 2022 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #2132823
Jack – zeldin being elected while saying he will fire Bragg IS the wl kf the voters if they accept him. Why can’t you consider the election as partly a referendum of Bragg and his ilk?October 26, 2022 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #2132876rightwriterParticipant
Since when do we judge a politicians capabilities based on their personal life? Who cares about their personal life are you electing them to be your Rabbi? They are politicians, almost all politicians by definition are corrupt or eventually become corrupt at some point. So if the guy didn’t marry the person you wanted him to marry it means he is disqualified and you’d rather be afraid to leave your house due to crime than give him a chance to make your life better? It’s bizarre thinking. All these media clips or scoops are just dirt they dig up on people who they don’t want to see getting elected. Personal life has nothing to do with politicians doing their job. It’s just an added bonus if they are good people.October 26, 2022 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm #2132882
rightwriter, nobody cares who others marry only of they engage in a perverted lifestyle that is an abomination to Hashem; this is the reason the mabul came and it should matter to every single Yid. Perverted people are train wrecks of society, causing destruction, mayhem and confusion as we see what they are doing to innocent children, the liberal’s abuse of children and teens is screaming till the heavens, and to they are a cancer to the rest of society, trying to force, and being quite successful at it unfortunately, the acceptance of their decedent behavior as “normal”. Society is disintegrating; abortions, assisted suicide, major decline in family values, loss of appreciation for the value of life, etc. etc. Our society is getting destroyed and you ask if personal lifestyle effects the choices of politicians?! They sure do ! These politicians constantly assault society with their perverted laws they are foisting upon humanity.October 26, 2022 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #2132883
rightwriter, nobody cares who others marry only of they engage in a perverted lifestyle that is an abomination to Hashem; this is the reason the mabul came and it should matter to every single Yid. Perverted people are train wrecks of society, causing destruction, mayhem and confusion as we see what they are doing to innocent children, the liberal’s abuse of children and teens is screaming till the heavens, and to they are a cancer to the rest of society, trying to force, and being quite successful at it unfortunately, the acceptance of their decedent behavior as “normal”. Society is disintegrating; abortions, assisted suicide, major decline in family values, loss of appreciation for the value of life, etc. etc. Our society is getting destroyed and you ask if personal lifestyle effects the choices of politicians?! They sure do ! These politicians constantly assault society with their perverted laws they are foisting upon humanity.October 30, 2022 12:09 am at 12:09 am #2133537
With all these Jewish endorsements for zeldin if Hochul wins the election expect her to hit us hard and do more than what she says she’s going to do regarding educationOctober 30, 2022 1:56 am at 1:56 am #2133552
coffee addict, religious Jews are supposed to rely on Hashem only, not even on Zeldin with his perverted running mate. We cannot endorse Hochul with her support of perverted behavior and leniency of criminals who murder and steal which is also sin just as perverted behavior is. Jews should not support either of these two candidates, there’s no hishtadlus Jews can do in this race and we can only rely on Hashem. I know that only relying on Hashem without and physical hishtadlus which we rely on to save us is a foreign idea to grasp in 2022, but that’s the reality.October 31, 2022 11:12 am at 11:12 am #2133915Reb EliezerParticipant
When it was a question whether religious Jews should join the Knesses, the agreement was to join otherwise they will have no say at all. Therefore, we cannot rely on Hashem without voting. G-d helps does that help themselves.October 31, 2022 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm #2133932
>>>With all these Jewish endorsements for zeldin if Hochul wins the election expect her to hit us hard
Based on her behavior in office I expect her to hit us hard even if we do support her.
Even in the PRO Hochul ads in the frum publications she does not commit herself to doing anything that will benefit the frum community after the election.October 31, 2022 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm #2133939HaLeiViParticipant
Zeldin, obviously. Voting is about choosing whom you want as governor, and that’s my choice.October 31, 2022 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm #2133962
Religious Jews are supposed to do their hishtadlus and daven that the outcome will be favorable to themOctober 31, 2022 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #2134131
coffee addict, I totally agree that we have to do hishtadlus but I don’t think Zeldin is necessarily a better choice than Hochul, despite the anti-crime rhetoric, and therefore I wouldn’t vote either of them. Someone who takes a pervert as a running mate, I can guarantee won’t fight the liberals against abortion and he won’t fight against LGTBQ policies, even when they effect children. In fact, I believe the opposite will happen and whom will the conservatives and right wingers blame for destroying New York (and the USA)? The Jews, that’s who…they are not interested in blaming Coumo, Hochul, and non-Jewish liberals, they’ll pin the blame on Zeldin…I see the writing on the wall …
And for those saying he’ll save the moisdos…well, the askanim and rabbonim endorsed Democrat politicians ’cause they promised the moon so the Chareidi block votesxwent for Democrats and look where we are now … In any case, the governor has no legal say in the Department of Ed, although his word may carry some weight, they are not bound by the governor in any way. If someone is voting for Zeldin because of this issue then their vote is not worth much, if at all.
Zeldin will likely do a better job than Hochul fighting crime ( Hochul did not do her job at all) but because of the other issues I bought up, I think the drum communities rallying around Zeldin is a bad idea.October 31, 2022 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm #2134156
The governor appoints the Board of Regents of the Education Department.October 31, 2022 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm #2134164
“Someone who takes a pervert as a running mate, I can guarantee won’t fight the liberals against abortion and he won’t fight against LGTBQ policies, even when they effect children.“
There are lgbtq people that believe that it shouldn’t be taught (and for sure not forced) on to kids, you know that right?October 31, 2022 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #2134166
“In fact, I believe the opposite will happen and whom will the conservatives and right wingers blame for destroying New York (and the USA)? The Jews, that’s who…they are not interested in blaming Coumo, Hochul, and non-Jewish liberals, they’ll pin the blame on Zeldin…I see the writing on the wall …“
Right wingers will blame zeldin? A right winger? And by extension Jews?
Are you ok?October 31, 2022 11:12 pm at 11:12 pm #2134176
ujm, I don’t have patience to do research now but I highly doubt the board of regents are the ones who have the authority to enforce private schools to adopt the Department of Ed’s so-called curriculum. In reality, the NY Dept. of Ed has no authority to enforce their own curriculum on private schools, it is blatant corruption of them to do so just like the CDC had no power constitutional power to force to people to take covid poison shots but the gov used the CDC as a springboard to enforce their ” emergency mandates” …October 31, 2022 11:12 pm at 11:12 pm #2134178
ca, I see you do not see the reality. Yes, we Jews are still blamed for everything that goes wrong, perhaps now by a not significant number of people at the moment, but the sentiment can c”v get stronger if this continues. We are in golus after all, many frum people are too comfortable and forget this crucial reality of life. If Zeldin will not reign in the perverts, and I doubt he will, we Jews will be blamed by right-wingers; if you feel better them call them extreme right wingers.November 1, 2022 11:35 am at 11:35 am #2134291
I don’t understand Zeldin. I just checked his record and it is anti-abortion and anti-gay, why did he take a gay running mate? He wanted the support from LGTBQ community and that’s why I believe that he won’t stand up to the liberal agenda.November 1, 2022 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm #2134352
The homosexuals automatically support the Democrats. There’s almost nothing a Republican can do to get their vote.November 1, 2022 1:47 pm at 1:47 pm #2134381
ujm, ok so what was his point in taking a pervert for a running mate? Everything is cheshboned out when running for governors office and this as well. He didn’t want the criticism of the media over his “radical” record so he thought he can tame it with such a running mate. BTW, there are many perverts who consider themselves “republican/conservative”. They feel they are moderates who are against crime, abuse of children, etc. While the overwhelming majority of LGTBQ are Democrats, not all are.November 2, 2022 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #2134840Reb EliezerParticipant
Zeldin has a Mormon wife.November 2, 2022 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #2134873
>>>I don’t understand Zeldin. I just checked his record and it is anti-abortion and anti-gay, why did he take a gay running mate?
He didn’t take him The NYS lieutenant governor nominee is elected independently of the governor nominee.
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