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Is Osama truly gone? We haven’t seen the photos, nor have we seen the DNA sequencing reports.
So, is it real? Or is it a re-election tactic by Obama?
A. He’s dead, stop the conspiracy theories (
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90% certainty)
B. Yeah, I guess it’s over for him (76-89% certainty)
C. I think it’s lights out… (56-75% certainty)
D. I’m not quite sure… (46-55% certainty)
E. Could be, I’m skeptical (26-45% certainty)
F. Dubious claim, little backing (11-25% certainty)
G. Obama’s a fraud, a charlatan, etc. (
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10% certainty)
My vote is for B.
You?
A.
Note that all the Muslim terror groups think he is dead; only the Obamahaters are holding out.
A & G
Agree with Daas Yochid
A&G
A, If Osama were alive he would have told us!
PBA, you’re back! How’d ya do it?
k HI hes dead! A all the way…
I think they have him killed temporarily. (Like it says on some exterminating poisons: kills bugs for 3 months)
He’s really, most sincerely dead.
A. Osama bin Laden was killed. Period.
It’s absurd to say that it is merely a re-election tactic. First, it is way too early and much too risky for a president to play such games. Furthermore, in doesn’t take much for Al Qaeda to prove that he’s indeed alive. It would be the most idiotic move an administration ever did in US history (far worse than Watergate).
Additionally, while I disprove Obama’s way of handling this country (including his counter-terrorism approach), I do not believe that Obama is a fraud or charlatan; he’s simply an ideological liberal.
Charlie,
As I posted elsewhere, it is the Taliban, terrorists and Muslims that are denying the fact that Osama bin Laden was killed. Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said: This news
is only coming from one side, from Obama’s office,
and America has not shown any evidence
or proof to support this claim.”
ron do u represent the lollipop guild?
oh…zeeskite..that’s what the sprays do – they kill them for only 3 months?!? now i understand. thanks.
lol!
I agree with Daas Yochid, A and G, so now (s)he isn’t a daas yochid anymore!
Dead as a door knob.
ZeesKite: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave Hirsch, I agree with you. It is way too risky to claim that he’s dead if he’s not.
However, in the government, anything is possible. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I have worked for the government & know that try to cover up massive & risky things (vaccination side-effects, epidemics among soldiers, etc.).
However, in all of those cases, it was clear they had alot to gain & little to lose by covering it up….but what can they really gain by faking Osama’s death? It seems that they would have much more to lose (which would be whatevers left of their reputation) than to gain (which would be…???).
TikkunHatzot,
Exactly. There’s no question that the government constantly covers up (after all, the bureaucratic solution to problems is to create more beuracracy). Consider the strong-arming of the Obama administration to maintain Triple-A ratings; thus, trying to enable more borrowing and less attention to the national debt. Think about Rahm Emanuels’ shocking statement that suggested government to take advantage of a crisis.
However, the risks outweighs the rewards in this case. The 2012 elections will be about the economy and national debt anyway (the GOP field isn’t really an experienced one in foreign policy besides Jon Huntsman). Obama would rather drill or open reserves to be re-elected. He’d rather ensure that inflation stops where it is right now. He’d rather bluff an economy (Clinton?!) than this.
To everyone who claims he isn’t dead, that this is all a fraud:
I worked in Washington for 11 years. It would be absolutely impossible to keep such a fraud a secret for more than a few hours: The place is full of leaks and leakers. Conspiracy theorists, give up!
And to the Obamahaters: Get a life.
Charlie,
What about Bushhaters?!
The election will only be about the economy IF there are no major terrorist attacks before then.
He’s probably dead. But it is definately possible he is alive.
i belive that he is dead but i do not believe that the birth certificate obama showed is real!!
Osama is an icon invented for the war on terror (whether or not a real person of that name and persuasion existed). He can be compared to Emmanuel Goldstein of 1984 or to the WMDs of Iraq. That is to say, he was a focus for the anger and hatred of the American people and he served as a justification of sorts for the continued military operations in the Afghanistan/Pakistan regions, despite the extreme unpopularity of those contests. He existed only in the collective consciousness of the people.
His “killing” did not happen through a gun or bullets but through a decision to end the charade that the existence of one man can make any difference to the welfare of an entire nation. It is a symbolic step towards ending the hostilities that the American people are so tired of – before we can pull back we need to eradicate the symbol of the wars. Obviously there is no body to show, no photos to post- though they could easily have created pictures if they felt a need to, and they could have dressed up any corpse to look like this icon if they had wanted to show a body. This wasn’t necessary, because people are tired of hearing about Bin Laden as it is (obviously, I am referring to the general population of USA and not to the specific demographic found in the CR).
Bin Laden will make no further appearances. Therefore he is dead.
No reason to think otherwise. I’m also pretty sure the “collateral damage” to the civillians in the compound numbered in the dozens.
But that fact may never come to light. Seals don’t like loose ends
I worked in Washington for 11 years. It would be absolutely impossible to keep such a fraud a secret for more than a few hours: The place is full of leaks and leakers. Conspiracy theorists, give up!
I agree that he’s most likely dead; it would be, as you and others have written, nearly impossible to fake, and the risk of being exposed too great. And, as Dave Hirsch pointed out, it’s too early in the election cycle for that.
I am curious, though, if you consider it a remote possibility that he’s been captured for information. It would make some sense, if he would be caught alive, to feign his death. He still couldn’t release a tape of himself, and only very few people would know the truth. His death (or claim of it) is, IMO, safer than his being captured alive.
I don’t think this is likely, but as an “insider”, I’d like your opinion.
I saw him with Elvis this morning in Roswell. He is alive.
Ronrsr – LOL!!!!
I believe he is dead, but I still want to see the proof.
I’ll believe it when I see a death certificate.
That was a joke. Get it?
I’m pretending to be Donald Trump.
veteran,
If so, Bush would have had him killed.
“I am curious, though, if you consider it a remote possibility that he’s been captured for information.”
What info? The info that the US has been looking for the past 10 years is “Where is Bin Laden?”
If the US wanted to use him as an info source for future attacks, then I’m sure they would have kept him in his compound & just kept a tight survellaince on any messages coming in or out. If he is captured, then they can no longer get current information.
“..in Roswell.”
There must be some mistake. I saw them in Walmart, aisle 6
Walmart in Roswell? Or the one on the way to the mountains?
I don’t even know vee is the cover far the grape juice in the Walmart on the way to the mountains.
Of course the one in the Mountains. And not even the one in Harriman. The one by 105. No doubt they were getting a head start on returning things (before the crowds get there) and were just browsing the aisles to see the metzias (whether they need them or not)
TikkunHatzot,
I did mean to prevent future attacks. I agree that it would be very odd if they were to capture bin Laden and torture him until he told them where he is.
I believe there would be valuable information to get from him; any specific plans for an attack, and information about how Al-Qaeda is structured, in order to disable it.
DY
I don’t believe for a minute that obl would even consider imparting w/any valuable information, no matter how much waterboarding
Any accurate info would be obtained from the data that was recovered at the site
“I don’t believe for a minute that obl would even consider imparting w/any valuable information.”
That’s why they just ended up throwing him off the back of a ship.
dear Oomis, what proof would satisfy you?
Does any of you Think obama will win the next elections because of this??
ronrsr: Living proof!
Hey veteran,
That’s really cute. I like that. I wonder who played Osama. Do you think it was a computer image or it was somebody simply playing that part?
Actually, the actor must have been getting targeted by too many people telling him that he looks like Osama bin Ladin, having seen him on his videos, so they switched to audio instead.
HaleiVi,
We shouldn’t bother answering veteran. He’s just an icon created to entertain members of the CR. 🙂
HaLeiVi: Replace the turban with a black hat or yarmulka. Exchange the white robe for a white shirt and black suit. Add glasses. Presto, Osama could easily pass for a maggid shiur in any mainstream yeshiva.
Now, with my custom-made tinfoil hat with the extra long rabbit ears firmly in place on my head, i will reveal to you all the truth behind the headlines. Osama bin Laden is not dead, he is in the White House. He is the power behind Barack Obama. Where was Obama before 9/11? Training with the taliban, that’s where. Community organizing in the caves of Afghanistan.
Unfortunately i am not at liberty to reveal more at this time but to those who will remove the blinders from their eyes and the cotton from between their ears, it should not be necessary to elaborate.
Actually Osama is alive and well and living somewhere around the outskirts of Boro Park with all of the rest of the Talibani. They work in the shawarma shops on 13th by day and they’re under FBI and Shomrim surveillance by night.
DY – Bush didn’t want him killed, because he wanted to continue the wars.
But your second point is right on target – I am absolutely nothing more than an icon created to provide CR entertainment.
HaLeivi – I didn’t say that in jest, I believe it is truth. I understand your reaction though.
The reasons for my doubts are – If Bin laden was killed, his dead pictures could have been released.
If not at least funeral (burial) pictures in which his wounds are dressed and blood stains removed, could have been released.
Like I wrote before, for the foreseeable future he is dead.
ZK and then what happens? Osama returns?
BTW when did he become Usama? Is it because Osama is too similar to Obama?
BSD: You’re invited to read what I wrote before (#7).
BTW when did he become Usama? Is it because Osama is too similar to Obama?
I’ve seen Usama used for a loooong time. It’s just an alternate spelling of the original Arabic.
To me, the biggest proof that OBL was dead (or at least not a free man) was the fact that he didn’t release a message right after the operation was announced saying “Hey, Obama, you missed….”
The Wolf
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