June 16, 2019 12:31 am at 12:31 am #1742740
A new sign was just hung at the entrance to the new settlement named “Ramat Trump” after US President Trump. The Israeli Cabinet meeting will be held there tomorrow.June 16, 2019 12:33 am at 12:33 am #1742754
“In the same survey more New Yorkers (among all, not just Jews) expressed a favorable opinion of President Trump than of New York Mayor Bill de Blasio.“
Well that’s not saying much
A subway rat is probably more favorable than hizzonnerJuly 29, 2019 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #1767055July 29, 2019 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #1767217
When Donald Trump Worked in the Laundry Room
Rabbi Wagner has vivid recollections of Fred Trump’s son, a wild, blond-haired youth. “Donald’s father left him and his brother an inheritance of over a million dollars. In effect, Fred was the one who launched his son’s business career.
I still remember going to shul with my father for Shacharis (morning prayer) early every Sunday morning. The laundry room, where all the tenants washed their clothes in coin-operated machines, was in the basement of the building. And do you know who collected the money from those machines in the mornings? Donald Trump and his brother!
“Donald was Fred Trump’s second son. I remember him from the age of about 14 or 15, with his wild shock of blond hair and his endless reserves of energy and drive. His father used to send him to collect the money from the laundry machines. Fred taught his children from a very early age to take responsibility; he gave them no breaks. Donald may have been wild as a youth, but his father raised him well.July 30, 2019 7:28 am at 7:28 am #1767268
Donald Trump clearly does things favorable to the Jews while not shying away from infuriating the Arabs.
He is not known as a lover of blacks, and he clearly is starting up with south Americans.
To say it’s all part of some huge psychological game where he is doing exactly the opposite of his desires and really he hates Jews and it’s all some grand scheme, is firstly beyond normal belief, requires a pre-conceived belief that he “hates Jews don’t mix me up with facts ”
And secondly would mean if is some sort of genius and great actor! Exactly the opposite of what those same people claim that he is a stupid loose canon.
So trump haters, take your pick
Is he a genius Jew hater?
Or perhaps he really is a Jew lover and he is exactly what he seems to be
Average intelligent shoot from the hip ball it like he sees it and a Jew loverJuly 30, 2019 9:12 am at 9:12 am #1767318jackkParticipant
Trump does a favorable act and the recipient is Jewish , ergo he is a oheiv yisroel par excellance.
He insults, attacks and denigrates multiple black people multiple times , ergo he is a racist par excellance.July 30, 2019 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm #17673752scentsParticipant
Not so sure he is a racist, he seems more like an equal opportunity attacker.July 30, 2019 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm #1767357
As an objective logical position you are absolutely correct.
However you need to back up your statement with specifics
Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
Whether you are nituray karta or ardent Zionist, that is clearly in trumps mind an unnecessary, and very pro Jewish move.
Same for recognizing the Golan as part of Israel proper.
Or Cutting off aid to Palestinian monsters, or mobsters .
Because no matter how morally correct you want to claim these acts are, no other president did them, and all got away with it. If he had no affinity for the Jews he could have easily continued that pattern.
His commuting the sentences of rubashkin and yesterday, I personally don’t think it proves it because they are individuals and presidents routinely do such things, but they definitely bolster the narrative.
How about you list a few examples of his
“insults, attacks and denigrates multiple black people multiple times”
So we can see if In truth he is a racistJuly 30, 2019 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm #17674122scentsParticipant
He insulted so many people, some of them happen to be minorities.July 30, 2019 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm #1767320
Both right-wing and left-wing can agree that it is possible to pursue certain policies and take certain actions which arguably have a political rationale without engaging in vile, hateful and racist rhetoric. Ronald Reagan consistently acted in accordance with his principles but NEVER got down into the slime and engaged in the personal bullying and obscene racist tropes that the Trumpkopf seems to thrive and and energizes his supporters.July 30, 2019 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm #1767327
“A new sign was just hung at the entrance to the new settlement named “Ramat Trump” after US President Trump”
Well, Joey, a new sign appeared overnight at the Sewage Treatment Plant just outside Baltimore renaming the facility as the DJT Sewage Plant. The Av H’Tumah has relocated from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave to the shores of the Patapsco RiverJuly 30, 2019 6:41 pm at 6:41 pm #1767516
Exactly, because baltomorons hate trump and are RACISTS (there I said it!)
Would it be racist to say the same thing with Obama in Texas?July 30, 2019 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1767531Non PoliticalParticipant
@ coffee addict
“Exactly, because baltomorons hate trump and are RACISTS”
You just leveled a prejudiced insult at an entire community based on the comments of one CR liberal.July 30, 2019 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm #1767571
Non-political….you are so right. The residents of Baltimore are the only Americans who “hate trump”. Otherwise, he is a hero to the residents of all of American’s other cities and towns, especially among minorities (where the Fox News Poll shows his popularity among African-Americans increased by nearly 50 percent in 2 years, 4% to 6%)July 30, 2019 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm #1767570
No I didn’t 😁
Did I say all people that live in Baltimore hate trump? Those that do are baltimorons the rest are baltimoriansJuly 31, 2019 12:53 am at 12:53 am #1767592Non PoliticalParticipant
“Did I say all people that live in Baltimore hate trump? Those that do are baltimorons the rest are baltimorians”
Thank you for clarifying. I retract.August 9, 2019 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #1772162
CNN has a long interesting article today (“Sholom Rubashkin: The inside story of how a kosher meat kingpin won clemency under Trump”) about how President Donald Trump came about commuting the sentence of Reb Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin. It claims Jared Kushner was much more responsible for getting the President to issue the commutation than Alan Dershowitz, who was given most of the credit previously.
It also says President Trump specifically was motivated to issue the commutation in order to help the Orthodox Jewish community out of hakaros hatov for our support of him.November 18, 2019 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #1801959
President Trump today reversed decades of US policy viewing Israeli settlements as being illegal under international law with Secretary of State Pompeo announcing today that American policy now is that Israeli settlements are fully legal.November 20, 2019 3:11 pm at 3:11 pm #1802689laughingParticipant
Donald Trump is a true ohev atzmohDecember 25, 2019 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1814212
The President of the United States, the Honorable Donald John Trump, has enacted an executive order penalizing universities that tolerate anti-semitism.December 25, 2019 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #1814220
How does he penalize them?December 25, 2019 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #1814251
Trump wants to look good in front of the Jews, He encourages anti-semitism by siding with the white nationalists in Charleston, NC and then he does an executive order to stop it.December 26, 2019 9:12 am at 9:12 am #1814318
For the above, I agree with laughing, he is oheiv es atzmo, אוהב את עצמו.December 26, 2019 10:33 am at 10:33 am #1814323
Why exactly does trump have an agenda to ”look good in front of the Jews ” ?
I keep hearing/seeing people express that idea.
I can’t even begin to understand it.
If you told me Biden hates blacks but attempts to make himself look like he loves them, I get it. The black community has a huge sway in politics and if he’d be associated with being anti black it would really torpedo his chances at winning. So there would be motive.
What’s trumps motive?
The pro Jewish things he has done have almost all been (in his world view) pro RELIGIOUS Jewish. Many have actually infuriated the ”Jewish lobby ”
Moving the embassy,
Legitimizing the shomron settlements,
Why would he do any of those if it wasn’t for real????
I’m asking you a favor.
You are not shy to type tons of posts.
Give me a direct answer.
Not an obfuscation not a parallel politician who was similarly accused.
Just a straight direct answer.
He was around frum Jews his whole life. Dealt with them.made millions from them. Legitimately likes them. Doesn’t care what anyone will say when he helps themDecember 26, 2019 10:34 am at 10:34 am #1814344
Trump only cares about his own interest, caring less for the country.December 26, 2019 10:40 am at 10:40 am #1814347
klugeryid, you tell me, if he is for the Jews, why does he give the impression that he is with the white nationalists, who hate the Jews?December 26, 2019 10:40 am at 10:40 am #1814348
Reb E – if you were really honest and interest in emes you would hate Clinton (and possibly Obama) for the same reason. If you can support Clinton, then you are really aren’t hating him for this.
(I say Obama cuz he was an arrogant, socialist, jew hater/devoted muslim, not the narcissist the Clintons are)December 26, 2019 10:47 am at 10:47 am #1814355
We know Trump has a narcisistic personal disorder, but is he also schizophrenic?December 26, 2019 10:47 am at 10:47 am #1814356
he doesn’t have to be against anyone to be for anyone. He supports causes, and if the white nationalists are in agreement with that cause, so be it. It doesn’t mean he supports them, it never did. That’s called serving a country. If you support coal miners, you are going against the environmentalists. That doesn’t mean you are against them, it means you are supporting the cause of the coal miners. You can’t support ANYONE or ANYTHING without having someone on the other side. Wanting to keep out illegal aliens (as opposed to aliens) is something the kkk supports, although for different reasons. That doesn’t put him on that side of the fence. And pretending it does it hogwash. And if you want to pretend that he is NOT an ohaiv Yisroel (although I don’t agree with Josephs version of him) than explain the things he did for Jews. No real white supremisist could even hand a tissue to a jew with a runny nose let alone free one from jail.December 26, 2019 10:58 am at 10:58 am #1814367
Obama and Clinton have never shown openly that they support the white nationalist. We don’t have to supporr Israel blindly in everything they do as Trump makes us believe that it is anti-semitism to disagree with them.December 26, 2019 10:58 am at 10:58 am #1814363
if you knew anything about narcissism you would see that Clinton fulfills the DSM criteria much better than trump who is a baal gaivah par excellance (not a compliment, in case you assume it is)
Sorry to disappoint.December 26, 2019 11:39 am at 11:39 am #1814376
Syag, We have never had so much violence against Jews. By not standing up strongly against them, you make it look that you approve of it and encourage it.December 26, 2019 11:43 am at 11:43 am #1814379
ok. now I KNOW you are dreaming. If you think that Obama refusing to speak out against terrorists, let alone FUNDING them, and shunning Netanyahu didn’t open that door than you are sorely mistaken. Add to that the reality of when the rising began….during the Obama presidency.December 26, 2019 11:47 am at 11:47 am #1814383
and tangentially the atmosphere of violence belongs to the democrats. Think of all the violence of the anti trumpers that first year. And ask anyone (myself included) if they feel threatened (physically or otherwise) to support trump in a workplace that is strongly liberal. It’s a real problem, hating people and threatening them and berating them for supporting trump is something I dealt with for a year and my brother lives with and friends have complained about. I have NEVER heard of such a thing in the reverse or in a different time. Dont’ pretend acting out aggressively toward people you hate is something trump brought to the arena.December 26, 2019 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm #1814387
I know about the violence in YWN. I said that Trump should be impeached for idiocy making himself look like he is guilty. Similarly, even though he surely is not an anti-semite, but he makes himself look like one.December 26, 2019 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm #1814388
Rechavom split up the Eretz Yisroel because he listened to young inexperienced advisers, similarly Trump fired or encouraged his top experienced advisers to resign. How can you make a good decision?December 26, 2019 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #1814400
Syag, don’t you remember Trump encouraging people to punch each other and offers to pay their legal bills?December 26, 2019 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #1814406
so reb eliezer
you are able to wax poetic but cant answer a straight question
(as to your question, syag did a great job you dont need to be against x to be for y….., only way you could have not known that is willfull ignoranceDecember 26, 2019 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #1814407☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Similarly, even though he surely is not an anti-semite, but he makes himself look like one.
Looks like one? He’s probably the most openly pro Jewish public figure we’ve ever seen.December 26, 2019 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #1814409
so assume that wasnt hyperbole (given that the liberals say he has never paid his bills why is this one different)
how does that make him anti semitic?December 26, 2019 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #1814473
It makes him anti semitic by supporting anti semites.December 26, 2019 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #1814503
you can’t call someone who supports jews an anti semite just because he supports their causes as well. It makes no sense. He doesn’t have to be a jew lover to the exclusion of all else, he has done things that support us and our causes, while also doing so for other groups. And why shouldn’t he?
You ask a good question tho about why he doesn’t defend himself or care how he appears. I think it’s because he is a baal gaiva of sorts who “knows” he’s right and doesn’t care what other’s say.December 26, 2019 3:56 pm at 3:56 pm #1814506
so you are stupid because you support fools?December 26, 2019 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm #1814573
syag, If someone is a baal gaiva, he will do and justify everything to protect himself. לית דין ולית דיין as Louis XIV said I am the state.January 1, 2020 7:39 am at 7:39 am #1815757
This secular year 2020 is the year American Yidden will show our great hakaros hatov to the great Oheiv Yisroel President of the United States, Donald John Trump, by voting to reelect him for a second term as President, IY”H.
And just as in 2016 when the highly concentrated Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods such as Borough Park, Williamsburg, Monsey and Lakewood voted for Donald Trump, making a very noticeable deep red voting area, similar to deep red Texas, surrounded by a sea of blue outside the Orthodox areas, so too we will do so in 2020 in even greater proportions.January 3, 2020 12:49 am at 12:49 am #1818050MilhouseParticipant
“Reb” Eliezer, you are an outright liar. Trump has NEVER encouraged antisemitism or antisemites. It is a blood libel that you knowingly repeat.
He said that in the Charlottesville riot there were good people as well as thugs on both sides. That is a simple fact, and if you can’t acknowledge it then YOU are the one so filled with hate that you are projecting it on others. He never said one good word about the UNRELATED anti-semitic march the PREVIOUS NIGHT.January 3, 2020 10:58 am at 10:58 am #1818131
Milhouse, you have no respect. דרך ארץ קדמה לתורה. See what I wrote the other thread ‘thick or thin’ .
לפני שיבה תקום והדרת פני זקן. Your love for Trump transformed you like him, not caring whom he hurts.January 23, 2020 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm #1825594
President Trump’s Israeli-Palestinian Peace Deal will offer Israel more than Israel ever dreamt of.January 28, 2020 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #1826912
As expected, the Trump “Deal of the Century” gave Israel virtually everything it dreamt of.January 28, 2020 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #1826967
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