Relating the Tisha B'av message from Hashem in Today's generation

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    Sam Klein
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    As we all prepare & get ready for the saddest day of the year for klal yisroel-a day set aside for mourning the loss of both of our Batei Mikdosh & many other tragedies that occurred on the same day,

    I write this letter in a state of sadness & mourning wishing mashiach had come long ago & this letter was not written.

    I begin by asking, where do we see in todays generation tragedies & wakeup calls for Teshuva relating to Tisha B’av?

    Below you can see many messages from hashem relating to Tisha B’av & other dates. i.e. you will not find these messages in any sefer (unless a sefer is mentioned) or newspaper neither is it from me, im not a navi or a Rav, the only answer is that it comes straight from hashem.

    1st message:

    Do you know that 9/11 did not become a sad day 13 years ago when it happened.it has been our sad day for over 2000 years? ???? ???, 9 is ???? Av is 11 ???? is 12 & ???? is 1, how does that grab you? How does that shock you? what about the phone number 911? that’s also ???? ???. that’s Americas emergency number for a minimum of 50 to 100 years, why didn’t they pick 111? are you going to tell me cause a baby might press 111 by mistake? These 2 tragedies-above-were only hint’s to tisha b’av, but it wasn’t enough to bring klal yisroel to start doing teshuva. So what happened ON tisha b’av 2005, i.e. no more hints to tisha b’av? Gush Katif/the Gaza Disengagement, it was supposed to happen on tisha b’av but they waited until Motzei tisha b’av, they did not even wait till the next morning, which means it was still tisha b’av in Chutz La’aretz (diaspora). Now let me ask you something, are these 3 tragedies-relating to tisha b’av-coincidence or is it a straight message from Hashem that its time for klal yisroel to wake up & do ?????? think about it, this is not between people, this is what we each need to ask ourselves between you & Hashem privately.

    2nd message:

    3rd message:

    On October 11 2006 a Yankees Baseball Players Plane (with him on it) crashed in Manhattan into a large Apartment Building, causing major damage & hundreds of lives lost. Now lets turn these numbers 11/06 upside down do you know what that is 09/11 ???? ??? isn’t that strange how all this comes out? Now we all need to ask ourselves, Is all this Coincidence or are they straight Signs from H-shem that its time for us to wake up & do ?????. Did you come to think about that?

    4th message:

    Osama Bin Laden-the terrorist leader of Al Quada & leader of the terrorist act of

    5th message:

    6th message:

    To end off on a happy ending I have written below a message that everyone of us can benefit for the rest of our lives & can change us into better people.

    7th message:

    Becoming a Baal Betuchen & Emuna (Faith & trust) is no simple matter. A person can’t just say, let me have faith in hashem, it is a long & Difficult journey. Becoming a person of Betuchen & Emuna in Hashem is an average of a 30 year journey minimum. (not from when your born, but from when the journey starts) Do you know what these 30 years are? Only the first 10 percent of the journey is learning every mussar sefer in the world, the other 90 percent of the journey is passing every single Nisayon (test) with Ahava (love) etc… , from accidents to robberies to deaths Chas V’Shalom etc… A true person of Faith knows the mishna in pirkei Avos that says the good & bad is all for the good every minute of the day , 24-7. Every Nisayon that a person gets from Hashem & passes, brings him closer & closer to Hashem & every test that a person experiences gets harder & harder, but a person can never ask Hashem why something bad is happening, because we all know that if a person was not able to pass a test then Hashem would never give it to him. Nothing in the world will effect a person of Bitachon, no matter what happens, cause he knows that everything Hashem does is for the good. Do you know what the reward for being a person of Faith & trust is? The reward is worth more then all the money in the world, the reward is the gift of Happiness, you get to be the happiest person in the world cause nothing in the world will effect you. Now can you tell me a better reward then that?.

    May we all take these messages with us through Tisha B’av & may it remain woth you throughout the year to help you grow & get closer to Hashem.

    May we all do teshuva ASAP so all tzaros can end & mashiach can come.

    I Wish everyone a easy fast & may this Tisha B’av become a Yom tov celebrated in Yerushalyim with the Bais Hamikdosh.

    Signed

    Yearning for Mashiach daily with tears

    #1204261

    yungermanS
    Participant

    these messages are really shocking, I hope everyone understands them & returns to the road of teshuva like you wrote.

    May Mashiach come very soon

    #1204262

    A Certain Person
    Participant

    I have a question: how can I force myself to feel sad if I don’t?

    #1204263

    Sam Klein
    Participant

    put yourself into the situation we are mourning, can you imagine what it means Hashems Shechina (holy presence) leaving klal yisroel & his Bais Hamikdosh on fire? can you imagine the simcha we had in the days when the Bais Hamikdosh was standing?

    How would you feel if you saw on live video on YWN jewish homes C”V-during the gaza war-on fire? wouldn’t you feel bad & sad for peoples losses & hope no one was killed or injured C”V IN the fire? this is what we call the mitzvah of “nosei b’ol chaverio” feeling the pain of your brothers.

    In truth you are right, we are now living in the new generation, where everyone is living in Denial without waking up & facing reality, we just wanna have a good time & don’t care about another persons sad situation (sickness, dept or any other tragic situation)

    #1204264

    A Certain Person
    Participant

    put yourself into the situation we are mourning, can you imagine what it means Hashems Shechina (holy presence) leaving klal yisroel & his Bais Hamikdosh on fire? can you imagine the simcha we had in the days when the Bais Hamikdosh was standing?

    No, I can’t. Guess I’m not on a high enough madreigoh.

    #1204265

    A Certain Person
    Participant

    we just wanna have a good time & don’t care about another persons sad situation (sickness, dept or any other tragic situation)

    This part isn’t true, at lest for me. I do care about another person’s “sad situation.” I just find it difficult to get emotional about something that happened 2,000 years ago. Sorry.

    #1204266

    “No, I can’t. Guess I’m not on a high enough madreigoh.”

    I just find it difficult to get emotional about something that happened 2,000 years ago. Sorry.

    So can you maybe cry for that? the fact that you cant cry over the beis hamikdash? it is perfectly normal not to be able to cry for something that doesn’t touch you in some way, so maybe try crying because you don’t have what to cry about

    #1204267

    OK. Time for some fun here.

    Could someone here (or anywhere) please explain to me what the “message from Hashem” in reference to this 9/11 thing has to do with being a “wake-up call for Teshuva”? The Baal Haturim is full with remozim, gematrios, roshei teivos, sofei teivos etc., yet I never found him saying “OK, that’s your wake-up call to do Teshuva”. (or better yet “I got it straight from Hashem!)

    We have to do Teshuva whether or not any relation to the Churban has to do with those numbers or not. Or of Tehilim. Mixed Secular dates with Yiddish ones… I’d like to hear more of these “messages direct from Hashem” – BEFORE THEY HAPPEN.

    Or is the OP trying to eliminate any notion one may have that something happening in the world is c”v coincidence. So now I know it’s not coincidence, because of these haphazard “signals” straight from above…

    Oh, and now that we finally have the web, emails etc., we can finally have the “movement Hashem needs and is awaiting for…

    And lastly… I don’t think it’s up to anyone to take another to task for not being able to feel the Churban. Medrash Aicha says that Rebbe Yochanan didn’t feel as much a Rabbeinu Hakadosh, since he was later on.. No one took him to task for that (we just wanna have a good time & don’t care about another persons sad situation…)

    OK, we’re now at the very end of our long journey. The fact that there are those that do (or to any extent), the fact that one feels the need or want to partake in this communal national mourning, should surprise and amaze you. Ashreichem Yisroel!!

    #1204269

    Bump for 9/11 wow can’t believe it’s 15 years already. Remember it like yesterday. Wish it never happened.

    #1204270

    today is the yahrtzeit of all those holy neshamos that died al kiddush Hashem. giving up their lives to save their brethren from those burning buildings on 9/11 i.e. tisha b’av (see above message)

    #1204271

    Meno
    Participant

    “9/11 i.e. tisha b’av”

    Huh?

    (I actually read what you wrote earlier, it just sounds ridiculous though)

    #1204272

    Little Froggie
    Participant

    Help! He’s on the loose again!! (see MY above message!!)

    #1204273

    bump for a chanuka with mashiach

    #1204274

    adocs
    Participant

    I started reading this loooong post because it looked like it might have some interesting material. Until I got to this part.

    “3rd message:

    On October 11 2006 a Yankees Baseball Players Plane (with him on it) crashed in Manhattan into a large Apartment Building, causing major damage & hundreds of lives lost.”

    I looked up the event. Not to ever minimize loss of life but 2 people died. Not “hundreds”. Or anything close to that.

    Once you start to make up facts, anything else you have to say – no matter the value – becomes suspect.

    #1204275

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    I think we should still take the mussar parts to heart though, and not let the other aspects prevent us from doing so.

    #1562572

    jakob
    Participant

    Bump

    #1562679

    laskern
    Participant

    It says כל המתאבל על ירושלים זוכה ורואה בשמחתה whoever mourns Jerusalem will see its rejoycing. Explains the Chasam Sofer that he shows that the loss is not dead which is forgotten but it is still alive. He can actually see the redemption and thereby be happy in its consolation.

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