May 26, 2011 5:25 am at 5:25 am #597107MasterMember
Who is the Rosh Yeshiva of Torah V’daas, since Rav Pam was niftar?
Who is the Rosh Yeshiva of Mir, since Rav Berenbaum was niftar?
And are the new Roshei Yeshivos yet on the Moetzei Gedolei HaTorah?May 26, 2011 6:14 am at 6:14 am #897940TheGoqParticipant
you might be surprised to hear there are major American Yeshivas that are not in BrooklynMay 26, 2011 2:02 pm at 2:02 pm #897942☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
I don’t think the OP was making a definitive list of all major U.S. yeshivos, (s)he was just asking a question about two of them.May 26, 2011 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #897944Feif UnParticipant
Torah V’Daas has many Roshei Yeshiva. R’ Belsky and R’ Reisman are two that immediately come to mind.
I’m not sure who is considered the “top” Rosh Yeshiva in the Mir now.
A yeshiva can have more than one “top” Rosh Yeshiva. Usually the one giving the highest shiur is considered the “top” RY. However, in some yeshivos, there may not be one shiur that is considered the highest. There may be 2 or 3 shiurim that are just in different topics or different styles that are all considered the highest shiurim.May 26, 2011 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #897945shlishiMember
Rav Pam and Rav Berenbaum were the top Roshei Yeshivas respectively, but afterwards there was no one top R”Y?May 26, 2011 7:58 pm at 7:58 pm #897946
“there are major American Yeshivas that are not in Brooklyn”
In quality, (which cannot be measured by folks like us) you might have a point.
I think the OP was referring to headcount and /or visibility.
That, and the feed into the “top” EY yeshivos and the crown jewel of the all, BMG, which is for the most part, Brooklynites.
From the view I can see (which is typical NY think), Bklyn is the numbers champ of the yeshiva velt.May 27, 2011 2:20 am at 2:20 am #897947☕️coffee addictParticipant
From the view I can see (which is typical NY think), Bklyn is the numbers champ of the yeshiva velt.
It’s also the number champ of Kosher restaurants tooMay 27, 2011 2:40 am at 2:40 am #897948am yisrael chaiParticipant
“From the view I can see (which is typical NY think), Bklyn is the numbers champ of the yeshiva velt.
It’s also the number champ of Kosher restaurants too”
and coffee addicts 🙂May 27, 2011 3:05 am at 3:05 am #897949☕️coffee addictParticipant
and coffee addicts 🙂
except I don’t live in NY….yetMay 27, 2011 3:12 am at 3:12 am #897950charliehallParticipant
In terms of headcount RIETS has to be #1 — it has dozens of Rosh Yeshivas, all brilliant.May 27, 2011 3:18 am at 3:18 am #897951shlishiMember
Lakewood has hundreds.May 27, 2011 3:29 am at 3:29 am #897952optimusprimeMember
Just to clarify on charliehall, in the RIETS system there are different programs of learning Torah. The highest and most prestigious is the Yeshiva Program. If you are the Maggid Shiur in YP, then you are a Rosh Yeshiva.May 27, 2011 3:30 am at 3:30 am #897953cherrybimParticipant
Mod – You deleted my post because I said that Torah is not yarshined, you have to learn it in order to acquire it. Why?May 27, 2011 5:05 am at 5:05 am #897954commonsenseParticipant
to answer the original question, i think that in mir there are two Roshei Yeshiva, Reb Osher Berenbaum shlita, and Reb Osher Kalmanovitz shlita. if someone knows better please correct me.May 27, 2011 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #897955YW Moderator-80Member
You have no deleted posts in this threadMay 27, 2011 1:35 pm at 1:35 pm #897956
Disclaimer: The following statements are not based on fact, just on perception (but in the world of marketing, perception is all that matters)
“RIETS has to be #1”
* Correct me if Im wrong, but REITs is Chofetz Chaim, right? To the best of my knowledge, the CC crowd does not go the EY / BMG route, so as far as being a “feed into the “top” EY yeshivos and the crown jewel of the all, BMG,” Reits does not contribute to this pool.
” Lakewood has hundreds. “
Quite possible, but as far as I understand (again, just Bklyn perception) the 100s are dispersed among dozens of “specialty” yeshivas of 20-30 bochurim.
And that’s why Bklyn folks like me think the way we do.May 27, 2011 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #897957cherrybimParticipant
“And are the new Roshei Yeshivos yet on the Moetzei Gedolei HaTorah?”
What I had actually posted was: One does not inherit an open slot on the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah; one earns it.
Anyway, Rabbi Reuven Schepansky (son-in-law of Rav Shmuel Berenbaum zt”l) and Rabbi Herschel Zolty (son-in-law of Rav Shraga Moshe Kalmanowitz zt”l) are also Roshei Yeshiva of Mir.May 27, 2011 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm #897958
bpt: RIETS is Y.U., not Chofetz ChaimMay 27, 2011 6:42 pm at 6:42 pm #897959optimusprimeMember
The Rabbi Isaac Elchanan Theological Seminary is under Yeshiva University, while the Rabbinical Seminary of America is a part of Chofetz ChaimMay 27, 2011 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #897960
Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim and RIETS are easily confused, since both allow their students to wear shirts that are not white. Innocent mistake.May 27, 2011 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #897961popa_bar_abbaParticipant
We’ll not make fun of bpt.
But shrek: As much as you could confuse Lakewood and Telse since they both standardly wear white shirts.May 29, 2011 4:08 am at 4:08 am #897962charliehallParticipant
“Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim and RIETS are easily confused, since both allow their students to wear shirts that are not white.”
ROTF!!!!May 29, 2011 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #897963
I’m sure people confuse Telse and Lakewood all the time. Especially people who have no sense of American geography.May 29, 2011 9:28 pm at 9:28 pm #897964Dr. DovvshteinMember
Back to the original topic of roshei yeshiva of major yeshivos in America, The roshei yeshiva of Yeshivas Ner Aryeh are Rabbi Y. Weiner shlita, Rabbi Y. Cohen shlita, and Rabbi B. Lieberman shlita.
And they wear white shirtsMay 29, 2011 9:32 pm at 9:32 pm #897965MasterMember
Any Roshei Yeshivos of Major American Yeshivos that don’t wear a white shirt?May 29, 2011 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #897966me tooMember
Yeshivas Ner Aryeh ?????? Major???? OK OK Every makom torah is majorMay 30, 2011 2:56 am at 2:56 am #897967HIEParticipant
the Rosh Yeshiva in Torah Vodaas is Rav Yosef Savitzky Shlita. Rav Belsky is not Rosh yeshiva, Rav Belsky gives a the smicha shiur. Rav Reisman is not rosh yeshiva he’s a magid shiur in the beis medrash.May 31, 2011 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #897968
” Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim and RIETS are easily confused ”
Oops! I mixed them up with WITS (Wisconsin Torah something)May 31, 2011 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #897969TheGoqParticipant
Wisconsin Institute of Torah Study a branch of Yeshiva Chofetz ChaimMay 31, 2011 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #897970midwesternerParticipant
Not sure why asking who is the current rosh yeshiva of Mir has any relationship with who giong to be on the Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah. The last Mirrer rosh yeshiva on the American Moetzes was R’ Avrohom Kalmanovitz, zt’l.May 31, 2011 6:41 pm at 6:41 pm #897971Pac / ManMember
Wasn’t Rav Shmuel on the Moetzes?May 31, 2011 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm #897972midwesternerParticipant
Rav Shmuel Berenbaum did not participate in anything that would take away from his shiur. Plus the Mirrers in general (including the Bais Hatalmud roshei yeshiva and people like Rav Leib Bakst in Detroit) have not participated much in the Aguda scene.
Rav Avrohom Kalmanovitz, based on the times that he lived in, (hatzolah efforts during WWII) and the environment in which he built his yeshiva, participated in Aguda type politics more so than his successors who had different battles to wage.September 28, 2012 4:35 am at 4:35 am #897973vochindikMember
Has Rav Savitzky or Rav Belsky assumed Rav Pam’s position in Torah Vodaas?September 28, 2012 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #897974we are NOT daas torahMember
regarding mir brklyn, i was just there in yeshiva. the roshei yeshivos are: r’ osher kalmanowitz (hes the main one, basically he runs the place:fundraising, farhers, and dorm, and works to set the tone) r’ avraham yakov nelkenbaum (r’ avrohom kalmanowitz’s son-in-law) r’ osher dov berenbaum and r hershel zolty (r’ shraga moshe’s son-in-law). r’ reuven shepansky probably should have become rosh yeshiva, but l’maaseh he didnt. r’ herschel kaminsky is not RH in any sense of the word. r’ elya brudny shlita is not RH either, but since he has the highest shiur – parallel to r shepansky – and the largest by far so outside of mir people refer to him as RH, although its incorrect.September 28, 2012 3:44 pm at 3:44 pm #897975shmoelMember
Who are the Roshei Yeshivos, other than Rav Aharon Schechter, in Chaim Berlin; and who is the next after Rav Aharon?September 28, 2012 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #897976HealthParticipant
Just curious -Is r’ osher kalmanowitz r’ avrohom kalmanowitz’s son or r’ shraga moshe’s son?September 28, 2012 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #897977abcd2Participant
we are not daas torah: I honestly have no clue about the choosing process of Roshei yeshiva in Mir. However, I am sure all the above choshuv Rabbanim decided to pick for whichever reasons the present Rosh Yeshiva.I am sure you did not realize when you wrote it and it was completely accidental,but to say”r’ reuven shepansky probably should have become rosh yeshiva, but l’maaseh he didnt.” is actually an insult to the current Rosh Yeshiva and administration. I would ask mods to remove the commentSeptember 28, 2012 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm #897978shmoelMember
Often the outgoing Rosh Yeshiva chooses his succesor (prior to his petira, obviously).September 28, 2012 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #897979we are NOT daas torahMember
abcd2:i hear the taynah, and i agree that i was a little misleading by what i wrote, and i apologize for any misconception. however, anyone who went to mir knows that what i meant was that r’ shepansky has been giving a top level shiur for many years -before r’ osher dov- as well as a mechaber s’forim, and was prob the most likely candidate to take the position. the fact that the mishpacha got together and picked r’ osher dov is in no way meant to have negative connotations on the mishpacha or r’ osher dov, who happens to be a major talmid chocham and a big masmid that we can all look up to.
all i meant was to correct the earlier post of cherrybim, who stated that r shepansky was RH, and i wrote in language that would allow the reader to understand where cherrybim was coming from, and why anyone could have made that mistake.
however, i hear where your coming from, and i apologize for any misunderstanding, and have no compunctions whatsoever if the mods remove that comment so that no one else can be misled.
health:r osher kalmanowitz is r shraga moshes son.
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