Ruth vs. Esther

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    How would you compare and contrast these two Women in Tanach?

    What are the similarities and differences between them?

    #841525
    TheGoq
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    What is this versus garbage? they are not opponents they are two great figures in jewish history they are not in any competition.

    #841526

    not any competition chas v’shalom. just curious what people think their similarities (maaseh avos siman l’banim) or differences are.

    #841527
    A Heimishe Mom
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    School assignment Nothing? 🙂

    They are both strong, steadfast women, but so are all women in tanach. They are both also both know for their tzniyus. To contrast – Ruth was a giyores so her strength was a personal choice as opposed to ingrained in her upbringing. Esther was also placed in a position where she had to breach her concept of tzinyus and apporach the king while Ruth was never put into the spotlight like that.

    #841528
    miritchka
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    Both were modest (Rus in the field, Esther in the selection), both lived with relatives, both were related (wife, mother) to a king.

    #841529
    BTGuy
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    Hi nothinglike.

    Both were totally awesome and shining examples for all of us!

    What are your thoughts regarding the two?

    #841530
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    Wait for shavuos, I’ll have something for you then.

    #841531
    yungerman1
    Participant

    What do you think of Dovid Hamelech versus Shlomo Hamelech??

    As Goq said, these questions are garbage. We dont compare Gedolim. I cant see any good coming from comparing Gedolim.

    Maaseh avos siman l’banim doesnt tell you to compare to find similarities or differences.

    Just curious why you chose these two?

    Mod please close this thread.

    #841532
    A Heimishe Mom
    Participant

    miritchka: wife and GRANDmother. thats a bit of a stretch. its also circumstantial. You gotta be able to come up with something better than that!

    (typing can come off wrong – I mean to be light and conversational, not confrontational or patronizing.)

    #841534
    sof davar
    Member

    “Esther was also placed in a position where she had to breach her concept of tzinyus and apporach the king while Ruth was never put into the spotlight like that.”

    She most certainly was. When she was told to go to Boaz during the night. That certainly was outside of what was/is considered tznius.

    To address the OP:

    Rus lived in a palace and gave it up to live as a “simple Jewess”. Esther lived the life of a “simple Jewess” and was forced to give it up and live in a palace. However, both of them valued a spiritual life more than all of the luxury in the world.

    #841535
    A Heimishe Mom
    Participant

    ok, sof. you got me there. I have no idea to which incident you are referring to by Rus (guess I should have paid better attention in class!).

    #841536
    miritchka
    Member

    A heimishe mom: lol! wasnt affended at all! Its times like these that i am so happy my kids are in school! gonna have to wait until purim/shavuos when i get more info…lol!

    #841537
    zaidy78
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    How would you compare and contrast Hileini HaMalka versus Amaslai bas Karnevo (Avrohom Avinu’s mother)?

    #841538
    moi aussi
    Member

    They both had tragic private lives.

    Esther had to leave her husband Mordechai, and live with a Goy. She had a son with Achashveros, but no Yiddish nachas. She could never return to her previous life.

    Ruth’s husband Boaz died on their wedding night. She raised their son as a single mother.

    #841539
    blinky
    Participant

    They both have a Megillah named after them

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