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    Obelix
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    I heard in a shiur from someone who knows his stuff, that sayin ‘Oh my G-D’ is ossur mideoyrayso. People don’t seem to know this.

    #744314

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    OK, let’s start at the beginning. Who is this “someone who knows his stuff?”

    The Wolf

    (Not that I’m saying you’re wrong… on the contrary, you may well be right. But if you’re going to make the case, there’s no reason you shouldn’t make it more forcefully by attaching a name to the statement — and since he said it in a shiur, it should not be a problem to reveal the name.)

    #744315

    Tums
    Member

    What about writing it in an online forum?

    #744317

    always here
    Participant

    I always say/write: “OMGosh”.

    #744318

    MDG
    Participant

    I never hear that it’s an Issur miDeOryta. If I remember correctly, the Kuzari says that one cannot claim H’ as their own. That is one can say “Oh G-d”, without the word “my”. Only a prophet can claim some type of exclusivity due to a very close relationship.

    #744319

    mytake
    Member

    Who is “someone who knows his stuff”?

    Do you have a source for this?

    #744320

    achosid
    Participant

    Repeat after me: TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL…

    #744322

    ronrsr
    Member

    Troll my Gosh.

    #744323

    Mayan_Dvash
    Participant

    My Rosh Yeshiva told us the same, years ago. It’s Lo Sisa…. you are saying H name for naught. OMG (the letters, as opposed to saying out the words) might be okay — I never asked, since you are not saying the word.

    ;

    #744324

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    That is one can say “Oh G-d”, without the word “my”. Only a prophet can claim some type of exclusivity due to a very close relationship.

    On the contrary, you do it twice every day when you say the first verse of Sh’ma. And with every bracha.

    The Wolf

    #744325

    thats “our” not “my”

    however there are other places where we say elokai

    #744326

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    thats “our” not “my”

    I’m well aware of that. But it still addresses the person’s point.

    The Wolf

    #744327

    not at all

    the very quote you responded to specified that the problem was one of claiming exclusivity of a particular person , such as a prophet,, not a commonality to the entire Jewish people

    #744328

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    the very quote you responded to specified that the problem was one of claiming exclusivity of a particular person

    Fair enough. But “my” doesn’t always *have to* be exclusive.

    I can talk about my family, my country and my religion at great length, but none of them are mine exclusively. When people say “Oh my God” I don’t think they mean “Mine and mine alone.” They mean it in the same collective sense as the other items I mentioned.

    The Wolf

    #744329

    Homeowner
    Member

    I was not aware that God is one of the names of the Rebono Shel Olam unless you think the Torah was written in English. 🙂

    #744330

    guy-ocho
    Member

    OMG, are you guys serious?

    I didn’t know there was such a concept of an issur like this

    #744331

    shuli
    Participant

    i learnt you cannaot say Hashem’s name in any language. so its understood that you wouldnt be able to say OMG with His name

    #744332

    not I
    Member

    I always thought OMG stands for Oh My gosh!!

    Besides is it really coming about of posessiveness. Rather put an apostrophe: Oh my, G-!!

    #744333

    Sister Bear
    Member

    I heard in a shiur from someone who knows his stuff, that sayin ‘Oh my G-D’ is ossur mideoyrayso. People don’t seem to know this.

    I learned in a shiur and saw inside the Torah and meforshim that adding on to the Torah is an issur deoraisa. People don’t seem to know this.

    #744334

    ha ha ha ha
    Member

    it is just a very unintelligent thing to say!

    #744335

    mw13
    Participant

    “I heard in a shiur from someone who knows his stuff, that sayin ‘Oh my G-D’ is ossur mideoyrayso.”

    According to many poskim, yes.

    Sister Bear:

    “I learned in a shiur and saw inside the Torah and meforshim that adding on to the Torah is an issur deoraisa.”

    True. But I’m fairly certain that “lo sisa es shaim Hashem Elokecha la’shuv” was part of the Torah ever since Hashem gave it to us on Har Sinai.

    #744336

    Homeowner
    Member

    shuli, “god,” “dios,” “dieu” and whatever else you can say in a language other than Hebrew are not the names of the Almighty any more than “hashem” is.

    Why do you think “hashem” is used? Precisely to avoid the sin of blasphemy.

    There are different issurim here as I see it. One is taking the name of the Lord in vain such as by saying the name I will write here instead as “adoshem.” Another is by actually pronouncing the sounds of the name spelled with the letter “yud” twice. Finally, would be uttering the “shem ha’meforesh.” OMG is not even close to any of these.

    In God We Trust

    If you think that’s assur, give me all pieces of green paper in your wallet on which this phrase is written and I assure you I will take care of them properly.

    #744337

    Obelix
    Member

    IF YOU DOUBT WHAT I’M SAYING, PLS ASK YOUR RESPECTIVE RAV. THIS IS TOO SERIOUS AN ISSUE TO MAKE CHOIZEK OF, I’M TALKING TO:

    achosid

    Homeowner

    Sister Bear

    ha ha ha ha

    #744340

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    IF YOU DOUBT WHAT I’M SAYING, PLS ASK YOUR RESPECTIVE RAV. THIS IS TOO SERIOUS AN ISSUE TO MAKE CHOIZEK OF

    Do you have a source for this?

    How about you ask a rav and tell us who.

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