March 16, 2011 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm #595747
so my school is closed tomorrow and friday and monday…anyone else?March 16, 2011 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm #750744ronrsrMember
why?March 17, 2011 12:07 am at 12:07 am #750745MOMof4Member
my kids have a 1/2 day on thursday, no school for the girls on Friday and everyone is off on Monday.March 17, 2011 12:58 am at 12:58 am #750746StuffedCabbageMember
i have half a day tommorow and school on fridayMarch 17, 2011 1:30 am at 1:30 am #750747yossi z.Member
I have work tomorrow, friday, and monday. I am lead to believe that the only reason we even have purim off is because it is on a sunday.
😀 Zuberman! 😀March 17, 2011 2:02 am at 2:02 am #750748
no one knows why. monday is given to have off other than that no one knowMarch 17, 2011 2:08 am at 2:08 am #750749stickynoteMember
I even have school on SUNDAY which IS PURIM!! 🙁 Oh well.. its a half day anyways..So enjoy your days off!!While I have school and work every day (except Shabbos:)March 17, 2011 2:40 am at 2:40 am #750750
There is absolutely no reason that schools should be closed Friday or Monday. Since my husband and I both work full time it is costing us over $100 in babysitting to cover those two days. Schools need to respect the working parents. After all we are the ones paying full tuition. Enough is enough regarding extra days off!!!March 17, 2011 2:41 am at 2:41 am #750751Sister BearMember
Monday – cuz it’s Shushan Purim!!!!! (and then the teachers can pile on the work for Tuesday because you anyways have a day off, I mean who is partying on Monday?? :))
Friday – not complaining. But there is no reason why they should give off.
Tomorrow – it’s a fast!!!!! 🙁 HAVE AN EASY FAST!!!!!!!!!!March 17, 2011 2:54 am at 2:54 am #750752
sticky r u in college?March 17, 2011 3:40 am at 3:40 am #750753mischiefmakerMember
I have 1/2 day tomorrow, no school on Friday and no school monday. WEW! Vacation rox!March 17, 2011 5:04 am at 5:04 am #750754
student- you get the calendar before the school year starts. dont even start with this now. you could’ve worked it out and not havee to pay a babysitter so please do not complainMarch 17, 2011 5:52 am at 5:52 am #750755cshapiroMember
student…its called grandma aka free babysitter or arrange playdates with other kids.
i have work tomorrow, and as ill be fasting with about half of the office, my non-jewish co-workers will be drinking the day away…
i remember the days when i was in college and had school on purim and chol hamoed..bh those days are over!!! and tax season ends before pesach, what could be better!?!?March 17, 2011 11:13 am at 11:13 am #750756
yogibooboo- yes I received the calendar before school started and that’s how I was able to arrange for babysitting. You still have to pay for it whether you now about it a day in advance or a year in advance. And its hard to arrangle playdates for four kids when you would have to drop them off at 7:30am and pick up at 4:30. So please enlighten me as to how i could have arranged not to pay a baysitter for these days.
cshapiro – Guess what? In my family the grandparents work, as does everyone else. Imagine that!
When the yeshiva world gets itself off the dole (whether familial or tax payer funded) and actually has to go out into the real world to earn a living perhaps things will change.March 17, 2011 11:37 am at 11:37 am #750757happiestMember
Student- I hate to say this to you but you and all the parents that complain about not having school use school as a free babysitting agency. When we have school on some days when we really shouldn’t be, the reason is because YOU (and others) need a free babysitting agency.March 17, 2011 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #750758deiyezoogerMember
purim is the time to spend it with your family, it’s such a short day, so enjoy it while it lasts.
snap tons of pictures…….
please don’t get shikker if you have toddlers in the house.March 17, 2011 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #750759
happiest-couldnt have said it better myselfMarch 17, 2011 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #750760
To Happiest – School is certainly not free babysitting. I pay over $40,000 a year for the privilege. How much DO YOU pay? The only time schools should be closed is erev yom tov, yom tov, legal holidays if that is your hashkafa, and maybe a week for winter vacation. When I stop working two jobs just to pay tuition, then I will stop complaining about the way schools take advantage of parents.March 17, 2011 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #750761
student-do me a favor. go read the chinuch roundtable in the yated on how Rabbi Yaakov Bender responds to angry parents and schools being closed.
while you may have a 9-5 job or even shorter, you are not bringing your work home they way we are. we are constantly on the phone with parents, social workers, etc trying to make sure YOUR children are doing OK! you know what else we are doing for YOUR children? teaching them to read, write, about the yomim tovim, chumash, navi, halacha etc. YOU are home with your children a couple of hours a night. WE are with YUOR children a good 6-8 hours a day. and sadly many times it is parents who deny that YOUR child has a problem because you are not with them as much as we are. we know when they werent bathed the night before, we know when they didnt sleep well, we know wha they are eating daily. YOU have NO reshus whatsoever to complain about where your money for tuition is going because at the end of the day we are there for your children faster than many parents are. We know who’s parents are home at night to do homework with their children and who isnt. We know whos more into themselves than their own children. Oh and not to mention when we do go home and have to be on the phone with parents, we still have to take care of our spouses and children. There are nights I cant sleep because I am worried about my students. I love each and every one of them and the days that I am not with them I hope that they are OK at home and are safe. you know why they have to give off some days for us “hard working” teachers? Because WE need time to take care of our own needs and pesach clean, and fast on a fast day oh and also cook. Do you knwo what its like when a teacher takes a day off? the class’ routine is not always 100% right, class may act out and not to mention you have to train the sub in. It is MUCH harder to take off from school then it is from any other job. So next time anyone wants to complain about teachers and schools…DON’T!March 17, 2011 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #750762Boro Park GirlMember
To student- stop complaining. Most schools that are giving off now only had 2-3 days midwinter vacation so really it cancels out(either one week straight or split into a few different times) I personally think this way is better because if kids are off for a week straight they (and their mothers) go crazy while like this they have a short vacation to relax and have fun and then they go back to school.March 18, 2011 2:45 am at 2:45 am #750763mischiefmakerMember
yogibooboo-if all teachers and principals were as dedicated as you are, the world would be a wonderful place. Woa, you’re really amazing. Your students are lucky.March 18, 2011 2:55 am at 2:55 am #750764
Yogibooboo -Guess what? I take work home with me too. I also scramble to find the time to cook, clean, shop and take care of my own family. Yet I do not have the luxury of being off from work erev erev yom tov or isru chag to take care of my needs. If taking care of other people’s children is too overwhelming, pehaps it is time to leave the classroom and find another profession. Hatzlacha.March 18, 2011 3:01 am at 3:01 am #750765cshapiroMember
woah, hold up student, i think the teachers are doing YOU the favor, by educating ur kid, and believe me they arent being paid enough.
its all about prioretizing. if ur kids arent on the top of ur to-do list, i feel bad for them…and if u cant manage work, and family then maybe u shouldnt be doing both….!?!?!March 18, 2011 3:07 am at 3:07 am #750766
mischiefmaker-you dont even know the half of it. i once gave a speech to my kids telling them how i love each and everyone of them and of course one kid pipes up and says even me? and i said yes even you! mind you…my kids are preschoolers! and i love them! and we are on top of every single one!
student-b”H i am handling both. but im sure you get off other holidays that we dont and you are probably one of those mothers who thank G-d for that day your kids have school and your home yourself. Do you know how many teachers and Rebbeim are out day and night continuing to educate children because they tutor because parents cant and dont want to. When i say cant its because they are too busy helping in the communities and not in their own homes. BTW, YOUR children are learning their middos and halacha not thru you but thru US! just remeber that. instead of putting down the schools think of the favors WE are doing for YOU!March 18, 2011 3:31 am at 3:31 am #750767
im not sure which sid eof the debate im on….where i work, we had half a day today, a regular (till 1) day tomorrow, and a full day monday.
i understand where student is coming from. for parents who are working and/or who are in school, its hard. it doesnt matter how far in advance you know about it, if you have to pay for it you have to pay for it. yes, its great for the kids, and yes its a great time to take advantage and spend some time together, but not everyone can afford to do that. not everyone can take off when their kids are off. for those of us who dont have family nearby, that makes it even harder. it would be nice if i could just drop my kids off by bubbby, but neither set of grandparents live in this state. and my siblings are all at least an hour away.
on the other hand, i understand where the teachers are coming from too. yea, they bring work home with them. yes they are on the phone with therapists. yes they are on the phone with parents. and yes they have their own lives and families too. i understand they need time to cook and prepare and whatever.
now heres the thing. there are some parents who do not prioritize. there are some parents who dont take the time. but i dont think its fair to jump on someone who is having a hard time and say she must be one of them. i would say that a good percentage of parents DO prioritize.
if my kids had off tomorrow, i would be upset, only because there is no reason for it. its very nice to make a long weekend of purim, and maybe be able to go away for shabbos if you can get back home in time. most of my friends whose kids have off are upset. some parents were even talking at the begining of the year about trying to get it changed. you want to have time to make your mishloach manos? i do too! but i have to work, so ill figure it out. i want to have time to clean my house to, but i have a job, and a family, so i need to figure out how to work around that.March 18, 2011 3:37 am at 3:37 am #750768
there are many many many reasons why a parent cant help their child with homework- one is that it just doesnt work. my friend gets so frustrated with her daughter that she really cant help her and its not good for either of them. my father used to try to help me with math, but he understood it and i didnt and he was never able to explain it in a way that i understood. most people know their limitations. i dont think its fair of you to judge ALL parents who get help for their kids.
and yogi, you should know better than to make personal attacks against people. how do you know what students kids are learning from student? every child learns midos from their parents AND from their teachers. all of those good midos that your little cuties came into the classroom with at the begining of the year were learned FROM THEIR PARENTS.March 18, 2011 3:41 am at 3:41 am #750769
anonymrs – you hit the nail on the head. I never meant for this to become a diatribe against teachers, and I am the type of parent who spends all my time after work with my kids. My kids are my #1 prioroty and I appreciate the hard work their teachers put in. BH I can juggle working and a family. But I have to work to pay exorbitant tuition, and I hate leaving my kids with babysitters while many of their friends are going places with their parents. Not to mention the enormous expense it puts on my already tight budget. Yes schools should have half days on fast days and off erev yom tov. But the schools today need to understand our predicament as well. They cannot give off for no reason. Why are schools closed tom? If I lose my job due to excessive absences I will not be able to pay tuition. (BTW Yogibooboo just because I complained about schools being closed , does that make me a bad or neglectful parent? Why are u judging my midos? Why do u think I am never home with my kids? Your attitude seems rather rude, should my children really be learning their midos from you?
Freilechen Purim to all, especially the hard working teachers.March 18, 2011 3:41 am at 3:41 am #750770
and one more thing. no teacher is educationg my children as a favos it is a service that i pay for, just like any other service. thats not to put down teachers at all, as i think they are some of the most overworked and underpaid and underappreciated people out there. BUT….a favor is something that is done out of the goodness of your heart, not for monetary gain. any teacher who has the attitude that they are doing a favor needs to recheck THEIR priorities. (sorry, just my opinion)March 18, 2011 4:20 am at 4:20 am #750771
Anonymrs – I couldn’t agree more.March 18, 2011 1:01 pm at 1:01 pm #750772
anon-im certainly not saying ALL. you know the ppl i am talking about. i agree that i dont know why schools were closed today. my school was closed yesterday too and parents were upset as were teachers. yes i wouldve been off anyways cuz im only there in the afternoons but still. and since i know your kids rather well, i know they NEED to be in school. but again here is what people dont understand…teachers burn out quicker because they are with a classroom full of children and each one can be nagging, kvetchy etc. also you would be suprised that some of the kids can have a “evil” streak in them. i had a rabbis kid in a class i was subbing at the beginning of the year and you know what he would said to me when i asked him to be quieter? “you suc*: that was a 5 year old child! when questioning the mother, the mother responded, “my child would NEVER say that.” later found out that some of the boys in that family werent speaking the proper way either. and again that was a principal/rabbi’s son! i had another kids hit me, bite me, push me and you tell me that their middos are OK? and then the parents deny that their childrendo wrong. i have one child where the mom will punish the kid at home even if she was already punished in school. the kids goes home tell her abt day, says morah “punished” me(punishing means going to thinking corner in her world) and if her mother hears that she repunishes her kid. its very very sad. why should she get it at home too? this child is chalishing for moms attention so when she says about good things going on in school mom doesnt listen. i feel bad for this child. another kid, the mother is so busy doing who knows what and complains no money, while shes all spiffed up and the child comes in with ripped tights(sometiems no tights) and clothes that dont fit. I want to so badly take her to buy clothing. i cry to the other teacher every day that i want to take these kids and give them all that they need. i cant take it! but yes there are other parents who are excited when their kids are home. but i rarely find it. do you know why we need off isru chag? how many times are kids going to sleep late or are off schedule? many! they need that one day to recouperate!
i do not complain about the money i get. yes i would like more. do you know how many times i feel embarassed to say im a teacher bec ppl sadly look down upon us?! why? because im not making the big bucks like others??? student- i know you are not putting down teachers but once someone starts about having their kids home etc it makes my blood boil because its such a bracha to have children which unfortunetly many dont have such a privelge. so im giving you a bracha…may you never complain about your children being home, continue to make money to raise your children easier and they should have fantastic beautiful middos that they learn from you!
oh and anon-u know what i would say to you abt ur kids lol
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