October 6, 2011 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #599800
Have you ever tried leining v’zos habracha during the week with regular trop? It’s impossible.October 6, 2011 1:42 pm at 1:42 pm #898609yungerman1Participant
I’ve tried, not that easy. Same with the Yud Gimel Midos of laining on a taanis.October 6, 2011 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #898610Sam2Participant
My Shul’s Minhag is that you only use the Yomim Nora’im Trop for Chassan Torah and Chassan B’reishis, so I shouldn’t really have a problem but I still do. It’s hard. Same with Shevi’i of Vayeira (I don’t have a problem with the previous two Aliyos for some reason).October 6, 2011 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm #898611
I hate this title. sorry, PBA, but there are NO BAD PARSHAS in the Torah, the title just made me cringe, just like the other thread you started a couple weeks earlier ” Worst Parsha Ever” for Nitzovim VaYeilech! If you have trouble leining, just practice like everyone else!!
Why start a thread with such a nasty sounding connotation, so negative, about a Parsha?! Sorry I’m usually not grumpy or angered easily, but this thread title…..I mean ..really!!October 6, 2011 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #898612
You really got off to an early start today on the boozing.October 6, 2011 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #898613
I have no idea why you are jumping down my throat. The title reads “Difficult parsha to lein”. What is making you cringe?October 6, 2011 3:11 pm at 3:11 pm #898614YW Moderator-80Member
i was wondering the same thing
but i figured id let you ask.October 6, 2011 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #898615
ooooh, it’s one of those mornings..my bad..(hic)..sorry..
L’Chaim, L’Chaim.October 6, 2011 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #898616nitpickerParticipant
try concentrating on the sof pasuk and esnachta and the rest may fall into place. if that doesnt do it, try the zakef katon.October 6, 2011 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #898617ravshalomParticipant
I have been laining on ???? ???? for the last number of years. Just this morning, there was nobody in shul to lain so I did it. I found that by going slowly I was able to stay on tune (I slipped once but fixed myself right away). This is especially in contrast to ???? ???? where it is customarily lained super-quick.October 6, 2011 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #898618microMember
its EASY, stop over-thinking and just lain it like anything else. its actually more fun than laining many other pasrhiyos!October 6, 2011 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #898619ravshalomParticipant
PBA: unfortunately, the title in the address bar gives it away…October 6, 2011 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #898620bp27Participant
Never found it that hard, you have to concentrate on the opening Reviei, and all flows well from there. I actually find the hardest part to lein at a normal pace, I am so used to going fast on Simchas Torah to speed everything along on the 8th, 9th, 10th time around.
yungerman1 – You remind me of a funny story, when I was a kid I once heard a baal korei mistakenly do the Taanis yud gimmel midos on Shabbos Chol HaMoed! You would be shocked how many people followed and said the yud gimmel middos out loud!October 6, 2011 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #898621
PBA: unfortunately, the title in the address bar gives it away…
Good. At least it’s not totally gone. See, I figured if I couldn’t have my title, at least I could have fun with baalhabooze.October 6, 2011 3:56 pm at 3:56 pm #898622
Love you too, popa!
I figure I have till sober to YomKippur up 🙂October 6, 2011 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #898623bp27Participant
Don’t mean to go off topic slightly, but which parshios do you all think is the hardest to lein in terms of preparation? I have always found the following difficult to lein:
Vayetzei, Vaera, Tazria. Any others?October 6, 2011 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #898624
Don’t mean to go off topic slightly, but which parshios do you all think are the worst?
fixed that for youOctober 6, 2011 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #898625Sam2Participant
Honestly, I find Vayeilech terrible to prepare. But the hardest by far is Vayikra, and it’s not even close.October 3, 2012 2:09 pm at 2:09 pm #898626
I wonder why I called it “second worst”? What did I think was the worst.October 3, 2012 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #898627
Have you ever tried leining v’zos habracha during the week with regular trop? It’s impossible.
It’s not difficult at all.
But then again, I have about 25 years of experience doing it.
The WolfOctober 3, 2012 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #898628Mimah nafshachMember
Whatever it is, it’s not nearly as hard as practicing megillas esther/rus/eichah etc, for a while and then trying to switch to reg. tropOctober 3, 2012 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm #898629
For me, personally, the hardest portions are those that have multiple iterations, but each iteration is slightly different. For example, the last aliya of Pinchas, where the mussafim for each of the days of Succos is ever-so-slightly different (not in the number of animals brought, but in prefixes and suffixes added to/subtracted from words), is challenging to me.
(Although, oddly, the nesi’im, which is similar, doesn’t give me trouble.)
The WolfOctober 3, 2012 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #898630ItcheSrulikMember
Sam2: Vayikra was my bar mitzvah parsha and I leined it then and it’s still harder for me than most other parshiotOctober 4, 2012 5:33 am at 5:33 am #898631gotbeerParticipant
Never lained in my life, but as a former gabbai I found VaYakhel hard because of the “Es” and he “Eis”.October 4, 2012 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #898632
Never lained in my life, but as a former gabbai I found VaYakhel hard because of the “Es” and he “Eis”.
Yes, but that’s only an issue in the first aliya.
Easy way to remember:
Es is always attached to another word. Eis has its own trup.
The WolfOctober 5, 2012 4:01 am at 4:01 am #898633YW Moderator-42Moderator
Someone asked me to lain at mincha last Shabbos and I refused because I get confused with the tune, turns out the guy who ended up laining had the same issue.
In terms of hard parshios to lain: tazria-metzora and vayikra.October 5, 2012 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #898634midwesternerParticipant
Wolf: C’mon, you should know the difference. The nesi’im are exactly the same as each other. But the mussafim are just a bit different each day!October 5, 2012 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm #898635YW BandMember
Hardest parshiyos in order:
-Matos & Maasei
-Tazria & Metzora
-V’yakel & Pekudei
-Chukas & Balak
-Ki SisaOctober 5, 2012 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #898636midwesternerParticipant
I think va’era is very difficult. So many sections begin with the same words but different trop. Many times it says Emor el Aharon, or Netei es matecha, or several other common phrases, each of which has different trop.
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