July 29, 2011 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #598303CutieMember
Anyone ever heard of not blowing out candles or matches when preparing or lighting shabbos candles (rather wave out the fire with ones hand)?
If there is such a thing what is the reason?July 29, 2011 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #792086haifagirlParticipant
It has something to do with the flame being like a neshama, but that’s all I know. But yes, we don’t blow out candles.July 29, 2011 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #792087Derech HaMelechMember
I heard of it. I think I even saw it in taamei haminhagim or a similar sefer.July 29, 2011 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #792088YW Moderator-80Member
its an inyan
i hold by it
not everyone does
i once saw a very chushiv Rosh Kollel, who is also a Posek, blow out the candle he used to light the Menorah.
i was quite surprised and asked one of the Kollel men who said he alwaus does that, rather than create a tircha d tzibbur for the extra few seconds to struggle with waving it out. he said the R’K does hold by not blowing out a candle but it is a minor consideration when something else outweighs it.July 29, 2011 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #792089seeallsidesParticipant
gosh- i always assumed that you couldn’t blow out the match because you had been mekabel shabbos after you lit the candles.July 29, 2011 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #792092yitayningwutParticipant
You are not mistaken. Not everyone holds this way but it is a recognized opinion.July 29, 2011 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #792093charliehallParticipant
“i always assumed that you couldn’t blow out the match because you had been mekabel shabbos after you lit the candles”
Before I was married, and even today on the occasions when I need to light Shabat candles myself, I recite the bracha before lighting having in mind that I am not accepting Shabat yet. And I can and do put out the match.July 29, 2011 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #792094minyan galMember
Is it okay to light Shabbat candles with a lighter?July 30, 2011 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #792095haifagirlParticipant
Is it okay to light Shabbat candles with a lighter?
Why not?July 30, 2011 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #792096CutieMember
minyan gal – why shud a lighter be a problem?
seeallsides “i always assumed that you
couldn’t blow out the match
because you had been mekabel
shabbos after you lit the candles”
There is no problem with blowing out a match since one only accepts shabbos once one says the berocho.July 31, 2011 7:16 am at 7:16 am #792097smartcookieMember
Cutie- it’s true about not blowing out candles, because a Neshama is like a candle and you don’t want to blow the “Neshama” out.
Charlie- your post is very misleading. You, can make the Bracha before lighting because you’re a man. Men are mekabel Shabbos at Shekiah, and not when they Tzind Lecht.
However, women are mekabel Shabbos when the say the Bracha. Therefore they must light candles before reciting the Bracha. Once the Bracha is said, it’s Shabbos!
Most people light the candles, put off the match, and then say the Bracha.July 31, 2011 7:24 am at 7:24 am #792098quark2Member
i know people who are makpid on this, and people who are not.
The people that i know who are makpid on this, are makpid on any candle, not just shabbos candles.
I have no idea what the reason/source for this minhag is.July 31, 2011 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm #792099☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
There is no problem with blowing out a match since one only accepts shabbos once one says the berocho.
That’s a machlokes acharonim.July 31, 2011 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #792100MeemaYehudisMember
If one cannot blow out the match after lighting, one cannot extinguish by shaking it either, right? I’ve seen people drop the still burning match on a non-flammable surface (ie the tray for the leichter), but I shake it out since I was taught not to blow it out, as I shake out any lit match or candle to extinguish it, as quark2 suggests. I also assumed that I am not mekabel Shabbos until I say the bracha.July 31, 2011 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #792101kylbdnrMember
I always heard that you shouldn’t wave it out either. We just put it down to go out itself. But the matches are too small for me and it always gets too close to my hand by the time I’m done and It’ll come closer by the time I put it down so I blow it…
smartcookie- sefardim first say a bracha and then light (just like you first say a bracha on food and then eat it)
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