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do you eat milichig meals or just kidush
only milchigs for the first night
We have some milchig meals and some fleishig meals.
I have no doubt that someone will come along and start yelling “ain simcha ele b’basar v’yayin” or the like and feel the need to tell me that I’m doing something wrong… but I really don’t care.
Guess what? We sometimes have milchig/pareve meals on other Yomim Tovim too.
The Wolf
we could eat milchigs all year – here’s our excuse for fleishigs!!! we once ate somewhere and they served pizza shavuos day – it was pretty humorous, my husband had a panic attack, I had to whisper to him that I had meat at home and he could eat it after!
Wolf,
You aren’t living up to your name.
Wolf:
I have been a vegetarian (with eggs, milk, cheese and limited fish) for many years. I find no simcha in eating meat at all and so I don’t eat it. Wine is nice, though.
I love to cook and find special joy in cooking for Shabbos and Yom Tov. There are some fantastic traditional Sephardic dishes, but also so many national cuisines. I specialize in Indian food and when I have the chance to make that for Yom Tov is it very special to me (and very much enjoyed by the family). Cooking for eight is a bit of a challenge, I admit.
Try making palak paneer or shahi paneer for Shavuos.
Milchigs vs. Fleishigs Revisited( I cant find my original Thread)
So this is the same topic re-re visited.
Looks like the subject line of some emails
i thought this would have some menu ideas for yomtov, anyone have any good and easy ideas?
me too 🙁
You aren’t living up to your name.
There are lots of things that I’m not living up to.
The Wolf
WolfishMusings, WOAH, why are you so defensive.
We make a Milichig Kiddush and then have a fleishig meal afterwards.
WolfishMusings, WOAH, why are you so defensive.
I am not being defensive. If I were defensive, I would have said something along the lines of “We have milchig meals and if you’re going to say that it’s forbidden, my reasoning for doing so anyway is X, Y and Z.” Defensive implies a defense. I made no such defense.
My response was along the lines of “We eat milchigs on Shavuous (and other Yomim Tovim) and if you think it’s assur, too bad.” That is not a statement of defense. It’s a statement of indifference.
The Wolf
My menu for Shavous(Figure out what we do yourselves)
1st night:
1st Day Shavous-
2nd Night Shavous
2nd Day Shavous
Desserts
-Iced Coffee/ Iced Tea
and no I did not type all this up for this thread.
Sender
Wow, very gourmet!
To me some of the dishes dont go together but individually they sound great, enjoy!
Sac, thanks for the gourmet compliment. I try. I tried to shove a lot of dairy together, if thats what you mean by some dishes not going together. I can also see the tzimmes with the chicken marsala( but I want to use it since it has been in the freezer since Pesach). But for the most part I think they do. May I ask what you mean just for critique?.
(Dont hate me k?)
First nite.
The beet soup doesnt really go w the rest of the menu (switch it out for a gazpacho?), and I dont think you needed the added starch/carb of the mash. Otherwise that nite sounds amazing!
Day 1
I wouldnt change anything. I usually stick to a specific cuisine when I cook, but not everyone is as neurotic as me 🙂
Nite 2
Def the tzimmes would go, but you said you needed to use it.
Day 2
Does the Eggplant Italiano have tomato sauce? I was thinking that if it did then it would be a lot of tomato sauce w the Ratatouille on the same plate.
I think the main thing is that you mix modern and ‘old world’ foods in the same menu and thats whats throwing me. Either way, great menu!
sender- foods sound heaven. can i come?
Sender Av~ your menus sound amazing!! kol hakavod 🙂
Sac: Beet soup can be switched for the green borcsht, schav, which is best done milchig.
getsl1, your quote sounds eerily like the es is shver tzu zein a Yid, which Reb Moshe zkl railed against. On Rosh Hashana, try davening with a netz minyan, or a minyan that is makpid not to eat before shofar, and also makpid that people should do kiddush bmakom seudah before chatzos. On Pesach, there is plenty to eat if you look a bit beyond meat and potatoes. Two parts whimsy and one part skill, and you can cook up a Pesach storm with plain foods plainly prepared.
Night: The standard whole grain challah with tehina and chumus
Baked ziti spiffed up to be ole al shulchan melachim (tomato
sauce, sheredded cheese veggie gems (stir fried florets of
cauliflower, bits of red bell pepper, okra added for slime.
Low fat cheese cake in whole wheat and cormeal crust.
Guaranteed to leave nobody hungry.
Day: Plum/rosmary noodle kugle with sourcream replacing half the
egg content. (variation strawberry and mint)
Pumpkin or sweet potato pie, sweetened with date honey and
filled with pistachios. (variation shredded pineapple and
rolled oats.)
Schav with sour cream, chopped leek,cucumber and boiled
potato. Ice cream. Same guarantee as the night.
sac, I dont hate. No need to worry. I like to get opinions. Adorable, sure!, you probably live nowhere near me, but send me your address and I’ll mail you a plate( better yet I can email you a cyberplate). Always, thanks. I try.
Ok sac, I switched the ratatouille with green beans. Now, I am making the ratatouille for Shabbos. Approved?
twisted: okra? You’re either sephardi or southern…or both.?
Sender
Great choice, definitely approve!
No, Sender Av, ashkenazi New Yawker transplanted to Jerusalem. I did first encounter okra in the genteel South though. I don’t like it for itself, but it’s mucous like innards are great for sauce base, or just to lubricate a dish. The little cartwheels from slicing are also nice eye-catchers in medleys like salads or rice mixes
Twisted, I always saute okra with some onions and brown sugar, and parprika. I then let it get tender and add a can of diced tomatoes and season and cook for about 25 min on simmer. Just a suggestion. I stopped making it because canned tomatoes started to give me headaches.
” I specialize in Indian food and when I have the chance to make that for Yom Tov is it very special to me (and very much enjoyed by the family).”
We do Indian food at least once a week. For last Friday night, I cooked Pancha Dal (five different kinds of lentils in one pot), a Jewish-Indian fish curry, and lemon rice. We also had a Jewish-Indian tomato salad. For at least one of the Shavuot meals my wife is cooking masala dosa. 🙂
Ok sac, I switched the ratatouille with green beans. Now, I am making the ratatouille for Shabbos. Approved?
Ratatouille? It’s a peasant dish.
Heh… in the end, we ended up having four pareve or milchig meals. We had one meal (Wednesday night) planned for fleishigs, but we decided that:
a. We had plenty of leftovers from the first two meals
b. We didn’t want to start cooking fleishigs at 9:00pm.
So, we decided to save the chicken for Shabbos and instead have all milchig or pareve.
The Wolf
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