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December 12, 2021 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #2040776Reb EliezerParticipant
Maybe, it starts from the mitzvos. Since the woman has less mitzvos as the Kol Bo, he becomes more holy from her and not vice versa that because he is holier he has more mitzvos.
December 12, 2021 2:02 pm at 2:02 pm #2040780AviraDeArahParticipantThere’s a big difference between קדוש and מקודש, the latter being the expression that the bartenura and rambam use. Kadosh means something is holy. Mekudash means it is holi-fied, sanctified; consecrated – not intrinsically holier, but set aside from something else for a specific purpose. When the malachim praise Hashem, they don’t call him mekudash, they say kadosh. When you marry a woman, you call her mekudeshes, that she is now separate and specified for you and not other men l.
It might sound like it’s splitting hairs, but i think it’s emes.
I’ll try to fetch the sources for the oft-quoted sentiment that women are closer to Hashem’s idea of perfection and don’t need certain mitzvos – this isn’t one of my pet projects that i can rattle off sources for; though anti feminism sources….those I know a lot of.
December 12, 2021 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #2040806Reb EliezerParticipantAvira, I agree the extra mitzvos make him mekudash, sanctified over her. He is not born as kadosh. The GRA says that the father through his circumcision sacrifices his son as a korban after the eight day but she does not need it.
December 12, 2021 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #2040822ujmParticipantAnd a Kohein is intrinsically holier than a Yisroel? Or a Talmid Chochom than a layman?
I think the same principles apply. They all become holier through their avoda.
December 12, 2021 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm #2040835HaLeiViParticipantUJM, you admire a Cohen?
December 12, 2021 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm #2040830AviraDeArahParticipantA kohen’s kadima in this regard applies even if he’s an am haaretz; in other matters we say that a mamzer talmid chochom is kodem – or does it apply to pikuach nefesh too?
December 12, 2021 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #2040863Reb EliezerParticipantThe Kohen would not come first in that case but only to avoid machlokes he always is called up first, so by pikuach nefesh the talmid chacham would certainly come first.
December 12, 2021 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #2040854Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI think Talmid Chacham has a priority in pidyon also
December 12, 2021 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm #2040945inquisitive girlParticipantPersonally, i think this question became popular after tv shows like “my unorthodox life”. I think it comes from trying to find faults and Un justifications things in the most justified religion.
Not that im trying to attack you Yehudis21, this question never bothered me. There are many good answers written in this forum.
December 12, 2021 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm #2040981GadolhadorahParticipant“Personally, i think this question became popular after tv shows like “my unorthodox life”
I don’t think the visuals or storyline from My Unorthodox Life have had any significant impact within the frum tzibur, assuming many even subscribe to Netflix (which I doubt). It is more comedy than reality since it is doubtful R’ Hendler reflect the norm for frum yidden in Monsey whose ex-wives engage in the kind of pritzusdike stuff supposedly portrayed and still are willing to maintain a close relationship and engage in mutual visitations etc. for the sake of the youngest yeshiva bochur (who seems to be the only real grown up in the whole sad mishpacha).
December 16, 2021 7:37 am at 7:37 am #2042280Chad AmarParticipantI’ll only be willing to reconsider saying shelo asani isha once I find a critical number of married frum women who want their husbands to wish they had been born women.
December 28, 2021 11:56 am at 11:56 am #2045662Shalom-al-IsraelParticipantIt is not against the other, it is against the EXEMPTION of many mitzvot , as a man.
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