Should The CR Have Sports Threads?

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  • #831602
    postsemgirl
    Member

    -Intellegent

    Actually I spoke to him about it many times he knows how bad it is so he doesn’t want his son to get into it. He is trying to cut it out but once you start….its like any addiction. I don’t understand it but I feel bad for those who are stuck in it. I’ll probably never understand it because I hope my husband is not into sports! Really it’s like any other taava a person has. Good for you on your acomplishments! I hope other people who want to get out of the rut can do like you did.

    #831603
    feivel
    Participant

    “Can someone please explain to me exactly what is “not kosher” about sports”

    its not “not kosher”

    its simply a lowly derech, a goyish derech.

    if it fits well into your mahalch, it is not “not kosher”

    #831604
    brooklyn19
    Participant

    jphone

    ever saw the advertisements during the super bowl? fill your brain with mud instead, it’s safer for your neshama.

    #831605
    intellegent
    Member

    postsemgirl,

    I understood that you meant that he wants to get out of it. But he probably so badly wants to listen that he is not doing enough to get out of it. In other words, he knows intellectually that he should just pull himself out of it and stop the nonsense but when he gets up in the morning he probably is sooooooo curious what is going on with the mets or the yankees (I so have no clue about sports, lol!) So he needs to take action not just cut down here and there. That is the only way.

    #831606
    intellegent
    Member

    jphone,

    Off the top of my head, I think an other point that was mentioned was that the sports celebreties are not people we want to emulate or spend time talking about.

    Maybe someone should summarize that pros and cons mentioned. (not me)

    #831607
    jphone
    Member

    “ever saw the advertisements during the super bowl? fill your brain with mud instead, it’s safer for your neshama.”

    . No. I have not seen the ads during the super bowl. I dont own a television, and neither does my grandmother (thats where all my classmates used to watch TV).

    . I’d rather fill my head with football, baseball, hockey and even mud, instead of the ignorant, hateful, vile trash that is spewed by some yidden about other yidden on YWN (which is of course 100% kosher because it is written under the banner of “yeshiva” and “frumkeit”.

    #831608
    jphone
    Member

    “I think an other point that was mentioned was that the sports celebreties are not people we want to emulate or spend time talking about”.

    Neither are 50% of the people reported on and about on YWN. Who is idolizing a sports figure?

    #831609
    postsemgirl
    Member

    -Intellegent

    I see. But it is hard to get rid of a taava in one day just like that. It needs to be done in steps. You don’t think so?

    #831610
    intellegent
    Member

    postsemgirl,

    I agree with you 100%. As I said, I was never really in that situation and I (am not a pro. Don’t know why I am getting into this). that’s why maybe he should get rid of it a little at a time but whatever he does should be 100%.

    Let me clarify. Let’s say, he decides to remove his radio from his car and he travels an hour a day, for that hour he might miss out on a specific update or whatever and it might kill him but eventually he’ll get used to it. Whatever. Maybe no radio motzei shabbos and he can make up an activity with his wife to do instead. the best would be if he could “appoint” someone to “check up” on him but he might not want to do that.

    So i don’t mean he should suddenly stop cold turkey but he has to be strong about it.

    #831611
    postsemgirl
    Member

    -intellegent

    I’m not either a pro since I am not into sports. I am not a boy. Sounds like a good idea. Thanks.

    In conclusion, I don’t think there should be a sports thread cuz look at what trouble someone could get into.

    #831612
    brooklyn19
    Participant

    jphone

    sports may be better than L”H. granted. but my grandmother does own a TV and i did watch the super bowl a couple of years back. some of those ads are disgusting and should be rated R. not sure if that’s better than L”H.

    #831613
    Bais Yaakov maydel
    Participant

    different strokes for different folks.

    for some people, sports is one of the few “kosher” outlets. for some people, sports is not kosher to begin with.

    you decide what level youre on.

    i think its pathetic when yeshiva boys come home just to watch the superbowl [IT HAPPENS] not just because of the definitely-not-kosher-ads, but also because sports for many boys is an obsession, and i think an obsession with anything is PURE AVODAH ZARA. an obsession with a player, or a team, is an insane idea. it doesnt make sense logically, when you think about it. the only obsession we should be having is with Torah and limud haTorah.

    btw, were not talking addiction here. different story for a differnet thread.

    #831614
    amichai
    Participant

    where in the world do you people come up with such thoughts, addiction?? and if you spend your morning on the phone with your friends, are you addicted? if you love speaking about the latest styles,are you addicted? do you really think anyone will find out information from ywn. that they don’t know already. you don’t read papers or hear the news? don’t turn this into a monster. if you don’t want it, don’t read it. we are not children. if you don’t trust ywn. to watch what is being said about any topic, find another hobby. anyone that has an addiction problem will have it even without the sports thread.

    #831615
    intellegent
    Member

    brooklyn19,

    How bout no Lashon hara and no sports!? What a brainstorm!

    (BTW, whoever says it’s not “as bad” as Lashon hara, fine, but are we opening a thread devoted to lashon hara?)

    #831616
    jphone
    Member

    Amichai. A true intelligent post 🙂

    #831617
    lesschumras
    Participant

    Amichai nailed it on the head. One person’s addiction is anothers hobby. What’s the distinction? My obsession is a hobby, yours is an addiction. It’s like the old definition of the difference between comedy and tragedy. If you slip on a banana peel, it’s comedy. If I slip on it, it’s tragedy. We are , in theory all adults. If you like talking about cell phones,or sufganiyot fine. If you like to talk about sports, also fine. However, if you prefer not to talk about a subject, don’t assume the role of mashgiach and determine that noone esle can read what you don’t like. You have a choice. Exercise it by not opening up threads you are not intersested in.

    #831618
    Bais Yaakov maydel
    Participant

    agreed

    #831619
    brooklyn19
    Participant

    intellegent

    i guess you do have something intelligent to say once in a while. lol :}

    #831620
    jphone
    Member

    Hmmmm…..

    If eating Sufganiyot was a sport, would a sports thread then be muttar?

    #831621
    jphone
    Member

    “but my grandmother does own a TV and i did watch the super bowl a couple of years back. some of those ads are disgusting and should be rated R.”

    Probably true. What does that have to with discussing sports?

    #831622
    jphone
    Member

    “How bout no Lashon hara and no sports!? What a brainstorm!”

    What about, no lashon hara, no sports and no blogging?

    #831623
    jphone
    Member

    “(BTW, whoever says it’s not “as bad” as Lashon hara, fine, but are we opening a thread devoted to lashon hara?)”

    Any thread that discusses any person or group is a potential thread for lashon hara.

    #831624
    intellegent
    Member

    “However, if you prefer not to talk about a subject, don’t assume the role of mashgiach and determine that noone esle can read what you don’t like.”

    I dont get it. Weren’t we asked our opinion?

    #831625
    jphone
    Member

    Opinion is – yes or no. Not, its assur and your a goy for doing so.

    #831626
    lesschumras
    Participant

    to Intelligent,

    I agree, we were. I was just offering my opinion of someone who would censor my ability to discuss a topic that I might be intersted in just because they are not.

    #831627
    intellegent
    Member

    jphone,

    okay, so don’t blog.

    “Any thread that discusses any person or group is a potential thread for lashon hara.”

    Okay, so maybe suggest that they be closed.

    #831628
    Curious
    Member

    BTW, listening to R’Shafier’s shmuz titled “Heroes” may give you a different perspective on sports and athletes.

    http://www.theshmuz.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Shmuz_Number_61

    There’s something to learn from everyone.

    #831629

    uh yeah, if u dont like the sports thread, dont read it

    #831630
    amichai
    Participant

    just curious- will there be a sports thread or not. how long does it take the decision commitee to decide? not critisizing, just asking.

    #831631
    Curious
    Member

    amichai – just go ahead and start one. If the mods are in a good mood they’ll approve it, otherwise try your luck another time.

    #831632
    squeak
    Participant

    Do sports athletes have blogs where they discuss the yeshiva world?

    #831634

    Squeak- ???? Do they KNOW the yeshiva world?! ……yeah didn’t think so!

    #831636
    jphone
    Member

    They may not discuss the Yeshiva world but they do discuss…..

    Good places to go on vacation.

    Places to get a good meal (OK so it isnt chulent)

    The best private schools available in various cities

    The latest politics

    The latest news and tidbits that affect members of the aythletic community

    Other Athletes

    The hat other athletes do or dont wear (OK the blog I refer to is about goalies masks, not hats, but close enough)

    In short, the same narishkeit one can find on YWN one can find on the blog of an athlete.

    #831637
    squeak
    Participant

    You do all the things they do. So you see yourself as being just like them? Is that your point?

    #831638
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    what happens when you put Joseph, jphone & squeak in a locked room for an hour?

    this should be on the riddle thread…

    #831640
    jphone
    Member

    “So you see yourself as being just like them?”

    Thats how YOU choose to see me.

    Let me make my point, and if you dont get it (or dont have the mental capacity to get it), I wont bother to repeat myself.

    For the 6th time. There are times I would prefer to blog about sports and sports figures than how many latkes I ate on chanuka, which YWN moderator is my personal favorite (its moderator 1,346,876 by the way) or the latest “psak” issued by the YWN beis din about wearing a hat, or trying to “out” another blogger.

    #831641
    jphone
    Member

    “what happens when you put Joseph, jphone & squeak in a locked room for an hour?” Joseph and Squeak would daven biyichidus because they are not macshiv tefila bitsibur, while I blogged on ESPNs web site (since YWN wont put up a sports thread) until it is time for minyan at the local shul.

    #831642
    jphone
    Member

    Let me get this straight.

    Its OK for YWN to run an ad for the Haifa Heat, but it is assur for them to host a sports thread?

    I wonder how the Haifa Heat would react when they found out they are paying for an ad on a site whose editors felt it wasnt proper to have a forum to discuss sports. Either that, or they are afraid how Joseph and Squeak would react.

    #831643
    Curious
    Member

    jphone – This is the sports thread! Just ignore the title of the thread…

    #831644
    jphone
    Member

    How about those Haifa Heat?

    #831645
    squeak
    Participant

    I think that I am the most misunderstood poster in the CR

    #831646
    Joseph
    Participant

    not by all

    #831647
    jphone
    Member

    “I think that I am the most misunderstood poster in the CR”

    “Not by all”

    A mother always understands her babies cry.

    #831648
    squeak
    Participant

    goodness gracious! I think we have Joseph, squeak and jphone all in the same room!

    #831649
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Good point jphone, I just noticed that as well. How about those Haifa Heat?

    #831650
    yu-bochur
    Member

    Whats wrong with sports. What’s the Hava Amina not to allow sports in the CR?

    #831651
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    squeak- you’re the only one that can help you cuz ur the CR psychologist. So go analyze “I think that I am the most misunderstood poster in the CR” and get back to us- k?

    #831652
    notpashut
    Member

    In a locked room or in a locker room?

    #831653
    feivel
    Participant

    yu- bochur:

    a previous post:

    “Can someone please explain to me exactly what is “not kosher” about sports”

    its not “not kosher”

    its simply a lowly derech, a goyish derech.

    if it fits well into your mahalch, it is not “not kosher”

    no reason it shouldnt be allowed here in my opinion. this is “yeshiva world” not “trying my best to utilize OlamHaZeh purely for the sake of the RibbonoShelOlam world”

    #831654
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    notpashut- good chapp

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