Smartphones in Mir Diras are getting crazy

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  • #1826023
    yungermaan
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    9 out of 10 diras in the mir there are at least 3 guys with smartphones and I can’t talk to them. Im one of the only guy with out one, and have no one to talk to. Any eitzas?

    #1826074
    Ayiddishekup
    Participant

    If you actually were in the mir and serious about this you would already know about the organization Irgun which u can be part of diras without smartphones so please try not to just malign a wonderful place like the mir just because you want to creat hock.

    #1826075
    flatbushaskan
    Participant

    you posted this question from????
    what about irgun diras????

    #1826076
    Ayiddishekup
    Participant

    Irgun diras which are diras that no one in them has smartphones and if you actually were in the mir there’s no way you wouldn’t know about it. So please don’t ask questions which malign an amazing place like the mir just to make hock.

    #1826077
    Joseph
    Participant

    Smash them.

    #1826079
    TheMir
    Participant

    The boys should realise that girls who want to marry Bnei Torah would rather stay single than take a boy with a Smartphone.
    There is no reason for someone in Yeshiva to need a smartphone. It is the antithesis of being a Ben Torah.

    #1826080
    iacisrmma
    Participant

    What do you mean by “I cant talk to them”?

    #1826126
    1
    Participant

    It’s 2020.

    #1826130
    akuperma
    Participant

    All humans everywhere have smartphones and are losing the ability to communicate like a human being, face to face. Don’t worry about climate change or a zombie apocalypse – smartphones are what are destroying humanity.

    #1826138
    avrah
    Participant

    I understand the problem. The OU’s daf yomi app is so good that people are constantly chazering the daf and don’t have time to schmooz with you. Maybe you should try the daf. In all seriousness, speak to R’ Eli Wolbe, and R’ Yisroel Gluestein.

    #1826144
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Most seminary girls who want a true ben-torah would not advertise on JDate or communicate their resumes with a shadchan via email. If that is what your are looking for, you will not miss out by not having a smart phone. You will obviously miss out on a lot of other daily functionality (e.g. checking the weather before leaving the house, having your government stipend directly deposited in your online bank account, searching for the lowest price airline ticket to travel bein hazmanim or checking on the credentials of a new hashgacha. However, for finding a wife, not big deal to to it the old fashioned way.

    #1826163
    chulentinmymouth
    Participant

    @themir, im in total agreement with you. i have “a friend” whose life was ruined in part to smartphones. his wife, left him, kids, out. its enough already this garbage has to be put to rest. the purity of a good, innocent jewish family is getting slowly put to rest we could no longer be bystanders. If it it was up to me cherem would be reinstated for all iphone users. lets hope for a better tommorow.

    #1826173
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Joseph’s call for violence is not acceptable. Just because the guys have smartphones doesn’t mean you have the right to harm them.

    #1826188
    Frumroshyeshiva
    Participant

    Knock those koifrim flat.

    #1826241
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    I’m sure Reb Yosef really meant smashing the phones, not their owners. And even then, only after you have called the mashgiach ruchani and both given a good musar shmooz to the owner and he realizes the error of his ways and asks you to join him in a “phone smashing” as part of his doing tshuvah.

    #1826242
    5ish
    Participant

    “The boys should realise that girls who want to marry Bnei Torah would rather stay single than take a boy with a Smartphone.”

    The Chofetz Chayim ZATZAL holds that even trimming with scissors is assur and that therefore it is preferable for a bochur to be single rather than marry a girl who wants him to shave, because someone who wants him to sin cannot be his besheret.

    #1826249
    trueisraellover
    Participant

    this is total trash, I am a bochur also in the mir and there are plenty of irgun diras with no smartphone usage, total BS.

    Probably a brisk bochur trying to play ego politics

    #1826274
    winter5780
    Participant

    the guys in the mir with smartphones are not the guys you look up to they are doing it to themselves may hashem open their eyes to the true light

    #1826304
    Horrified
    Participant

    Idiots
    Nothing better to kvetch about today?

    #1826308
    Cleanmyhouse
    Participant

    Hashem yirachem!

    Get rId of those smartphones!!!

    All they cause is tzaros

    Drop em into the keilim mikvah….

    #1826303
    USAISRAELI
    Participant

    The puritanism about smartphones is crazy. A true ben torah can take anything and use it to be mekadaish. It’s just a tool.
    That’s the difference between being tahor and kadosh. Someone tahor will, indeed, not have a phone. A kadosh, otoh, will have one, and will use it for shem shamayim.
    Now, you want to say, that a yeshiva bachur should not have anything to distract him at all, including phones? Fine. but not because of it being a smartphone, per se.

    #1826544
    CTRebbe
    Participant

    Apparently the main issue that people have with smartphones is the fact that they have internet access. It makes me wonder how all the people posting here did that without going on the internet. Maybe they asked their neighbors who have internet to post for them?

    #1827884
    press87
    Participant

    First of all get a dumbphone with texting that solves the talking issue second if all the girls arent marrying bochurim with smartphones then the signs would say “STOP CAUSING THE SHIDDUCH CRISI THROW OUT YOUR SMARTPHONE!!!!” not “STOP CAUSING THE SHIDDUCH CRISIS GET MARRIED AT 21”

    #1827972
    poshiteryid
    Participant

    Being in the mir recently i can tell you it is a huge issue.
    Unfortunately, it will not be resolved so easily.
    Irgun have also clamped down and it is getting harder o to have an irgun dira (believe they are tight on money).
    They have made a new rule that if one of the people in the dira have a talk and text phone with a colour screen hich could play video you cant sign up the dira. This has turned away many more diras.
    This problem is litvish and chassidish alike…..
    The mir officially have “spies” check on diras but this has never helped anything or anyone….
    Unfortunately, even in the mir dorms there are plenty of smartphones.
    Do also reliase alot of these people have kosher phones for out and about and keep their smartphones in their dira…
    No easy fix. But there has to be enough people out there without smartphones to create a dira with. You only need 5-8 bochrim!
    Good luck

    #1828100
    thesentersbochur
    Participant

    smartphones are the reason we r still in galus

    #1828101
    thesentersbochur
    Participant

    its not galus smartphone its galus google

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