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    “There is this phony and dangerous libertarian theme that ANY government public health guidance is politically driven by the deep state, designed to take away your liberty”

    A Trump appointed federal judge basically said just that, overturning essentially all coronavirus restrictions in Pennsylvania, in defiance of over a century of binding judicial precedent including SC decisions earlier this year. Yet the Trump cult claims that it is liberals who are judicial activists.


    There’s a shmooze from R Gershon Ribner that addresses this. I think there’s a site devoted to his shmoozin.

    anonymous Jew

    Charlie , congratulations, you know how to cut and paste from Google. The Federal government has been conducting limited burns, but obviously not enough. Had there not been such a huge accumulation left over from the 8 Obama/Biden years it might have been sufficient. And Gov Newsom admitted California had not done anything.


    Dear Charlie,

    I would opine that obesity and malnutrition are more preventable.

    If the point is about the choice of the victim, than the answer has to be suicide.

    crazy horse

    i think you have a lot more problems than you are letting on.


    As George W. Bush said When I was young and stupid, I was young and stupid. (I left out the quotes because it might not be a perfect quote). Yeshiva boys are young and they’ll do stupid things. Nothing you say to them will change it. This topic has been discussed in Yated’s chinuch roundtable and many other places ad nauseum. It’s a pointless discussion.


    I find it ironic that drinking can be equated to smoking, while smoking most definitely has an element of rebellion and I’ll do as i please aditude it is not abominable like drinking and equating the two is a lack of clarity in fundamental values furthermore for all the ignorant folk who wrote chilul Hashem I don’t believe you have any clue what the definition of chilul Hashem is, anyone who sees a pure looking yeshiva bocher in today’s society if they are spiritually healthy will feel a certain love that there are still moral people around who devote their lives to kedushah and taharah the in an era that there is so much impurity a cigarette won’t change anything
    Indeed whoever wrote it’s a chilul Hashem are guilty themselves of chilul Hashem there is no greater chilul Hashem than degrading bnei torah even if the facts are true bnei torah are to be put on a pedestal to be looked at as holy of holys those who dare attack such as the arrogant bloggers over here are people who on some level are guilty of מאי אהני לן רבנן and accordingly have lost their portion in עולם הבא


    Let’s be clear and realistic. The vast majority of bochurim who smoke don’t smoke heavy. They smoke a few a day.
    Almost all bochurim stop completely or smoke considerably less after their married.
    It is a problem.
    But Yeshivas have to pick their battles. In todays day and age you cannot be to strict on bochurim


    I think its not a problem as long as it doesn’t get out of hand. If a bochur smokes a pack of day and maybe has a shot or 2 at night, there’s no problem if it’s not affecting his avodas Hashem and learning. if a bochur constantly leaves shiur or doesn’t do things he is supposed to because he is busy smoking or is drunk, that’s a problem. But otherwise, I think it’s a good outlet for bochurim that’s not affecting their Yiddishkeit.
    Also, I’m totally maskim to midwesterner about the tuition.


    Personaly i think they should be very strict with smoking and more lenient with drinking but only on purim


    A yesiva can make strict policy about smoking


    Yeshiva bochurim should not be smoking. Read Rambam we must protect health! Not only is he a narishe bucher but he is arguably in Chillul HaShem because he is reducing the zchus of a yid and other yidn around him to that of a regular goyim rasha

    mikvah nais

    Dear ben what’s the problem with vaping indoors again is second hand vapor dangerous if son then please tell your son to sn to stay away from the hot water urn it might be dangerous

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