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June 15, 2021 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #1983330ADHDParticipant
Trying to listen to a shire is murder for me for my mind is all over the place but if i do it will playing mindless computer games like mario or tetris im actually able to concentrate
June 15, 2021 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm #1983357🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantDear name-calling-is-easier-than-just-having-a-conversation,
I will listen to his lecture because I don’t believe he said that computer games are effective as stimulants.
And guess what, I know what tetris can offer, but this is a thread about WOW. tetris may make a good fidget, but that has nothing to do with the conversation we are having.June 15, 2021 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #1983362ADHDParticipantSorry first of all I did not say that he said that playing computer games is okay for ADHD I said was that he claims that ADHD brains need extra stimulation in order to be normal so what might be overstimulating for some like going to amusement park or playing computer games someone with ADHD will find that relaxing and actually calm his brain
Ps i thought we we’re bashing oll computer games my mistakeJune 15, 2021 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #1983386🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantoverstimulation is not the same as stimulation that the brain needs.
June 15, 2021 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #1983434Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantADHD, I admit that chess is addictive! I was .. then, I grew up, and used skills that I developed there for other things. I understand what you are saying how computer games work for you. You just need to pre-plan your divergence so that it is doing something productive for yourself and others. for example, chess worked for me as a kid – it develops logical thinking, teaches you to evaluate your capabilities objectively (if you don’t, your opponents will, and it is hard). So, if catching monsters or flipping geometric figures is useful for you in some way, then play those. Or, find a game that will be help to you and kids. there are, for example, typing games with letters falling off the ceiling, use it to teach yourself and kids to type with 10 fingers blind. Then, same in Hebrew. Make up problem for kids – Find all cities that start with A in atlas, or count all “es” in the Humash until”yere es Elokim” … One of my kids took a test in response to school chachamim’ “concerns” – he first was asked to repeat numbers and he did below average, then he was asked to repeat numbers backwards – and he was at 98% range … so challenge yourself and kids the right way and enjoy it
June 15, 2021 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #1983433ADHDParticipantYou you are so right when discussing a regular brain but when discussing in ADHD brain over stimulation is what it needs to be normal listen to the lecture or read up on Ritalin etc. A ADHD brain it’s constantly stimulated in order for the brain to calm down it needs to get overly stimulated to the point where the brain says okay this is enough and then calm down
June 15, 2021 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #1983454🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantADHD – it is not the same stimulation. Stimulants are not doing the same thing to your brain that sensory input is doing. Stimulation from sensory input (or being overloaded by sound/sight/touch) does not have the same affect on your brain as pharmaceutical stimulants. As a matter of fact, so many of those with ADHD are more overwhelmed faster by overwhelming external stimuli that it actually has an adverse effect, not a productive one.
June 15, 2021 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #1983459ADHDParticipantDear always ask questions you are you are so right in general any game that you play together whether it’s sports racing teachers communication and social skills it’s hard to get kids interested in games that need too much thinking even though I love them but yes violent games that are over the top or games that have bad messages I definitely unappropriate and I would never think of playing an online multiplayer game I have a friend that I spent thousands of thousands of dollars on Make Believe items it can be very addicting but in general playing games on Nintendo etc. Is really not bad at all or a waste of money anybody who could spend $20 on a book that last maybe a couple of hours but then gets mad when a game plus $60 but last for many many many more hours is just not being rational to end off just like they’re a bad books bad board games they’re bad computer games good job at the parents is to make sure your kids and yourself play the ones that are appropriate
June 15, 2021 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #1983474ADHDParticipantDear syag lchachmu I can’t tell you what happens to others I could just tell you what happens to me and how my brain works and based on 15 years of doing research on the topic you don’t trust me you can listen to the lecture by rabbi_mordechai_weinberger_keiravtuni-3-adhd_13_05_2016
He lays it out all very clearly and an ADHD person has a bunch of voices and their head and that calmed down by overstimulation That’s why they’re very good at any crisis and why they are subject to addiction but but unlike alcoholics who are you using alcohol to escape their life problems and ADHD person is using it to feel normal it was a great article in the amy about someone who was told he was an alcoholic and have to go to AA meetings but was not working for him and he was holding by getting divorce because his wife said she is an addict once he realized that it was ADHD and it was using the alcohol to be normal he was able to figure out otherwise to come his mind
They are studies now that they are trying to use computer games to help ADHD instead of Ritalin look into it you will be amazed now yes if you spend too much time on anything it is not good but if it helps you calm down and live a productive life otherwise or if it helps you listen to a shire while you are playing computer games which otherwise you would not be doing because you cannot concentrate because of what’s going on in your mind that’s called using computer games for the service of Hashem I can only say what works for me I guess everyone can decide for themselves what’s best for them thanks for your input sorry about the name calling I didn’t mean anything by it it’s just frustrating to be called crazy all my life I was just lashing out the sorry againJune 15, 2021 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #1983498Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantADHD, try engaging kids on shabbos. Then, you can play some simple non-computer games with words, numbers, books, and things.
June 15, 2021 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #1983503ADHDParticipantThe problem is trying to find something engaging to do with a 3 year old for longer then 5 minutes with out going crazy
Thanks for your helpJune 15, 2021 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #1983527Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant3 yo…. Teach letters using 3d toys or just pointing in the text. Build something from sand or papers. Point to things and name them. Speak a different language on different day.. get him a little sibling, this will entertain everyone. enjoy that the kid is still listening to you rather than texting his friends, it will pass fast.
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