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-Kiddush cup stem or not? Why? What was the original minhag?
-Esrog pitom or not? Why? What was the original esrog type that was used?
-Pesach Keaara 2 matzahs or 3?
-Megillas Esther foldable or Torah style scroll? Was a scroll ever used? Do some use a scroll?
-Torah Ashkenaz scroll or Sephardi scroll? Why the difference and what was used originally?
-Tzitzis white strings or techeles? White stripes or black? Techeles Beged?
-Chanuka oil or wax candles?
-Matza machine made or hand made? What is more kosher? What are we commemorating the
Yetzias Mitzrayim or Korban Pesach?
-Lulav closed or open? Koshalach or tied together? Whats the original minhag? (There is the coin
discovered which shows Beis Hamkidash on one side and the other lulav and esrog and seems
to have a koshalach holder,interesting)Welcoming your thoughts and answers…
Wow! What a neutral, nice and productive topic. I can’t believe we didn’t just drop everything to approve it. Thankfully you called us names to motivate us to rush in xnd rectify it.
Sherer OR Emes? (Sheker has a stem, is shaky, Emes is yasod)
Mishna: STAM – halakha? Rebbi Meir?
Schools: a STEM or ST’M debate!
Again discussing the stem cells debate?
Troll or not troll?
Kokosh with hot coffee or cold milk?
Woodburne or Fallsburg?
Tums or Exlax on Motza?Do you use this type of verbal bullying/manipulation to get your way in real life too? There are actually more appropriate ways to have a conversation.
This list is full of arrogance. It’s not our place to decide which half of klal yisroel, which half of rishonim are “right” and which are “wrong”.
In the dead sea scrolls caves, for instance, they found both rashi and rabbeinu tam tefillin.
Eilu v’eilu divrei elokim chaim. Good chazal to acknowledge.
Facts from observation would be “it took a lot longer than it should have to be approved”
These comments-
“a lot more neutral and positive than the sinas chinam topics you guys approve”
“My topic, contrary to your taste is actually productive”
“Should I have thrown some hate stirring attacks on others minhagim in order to get approved faster?”
Are neither facts nor “observations”And then you complain about other people’s negativity
Self reflect much?There is a syle of kiddush cup with a unique design which is attributed to the Ruzhiner Rebbe but which may date back to the Maggid of Mezeritch. Google “Ruzhin Sterling Silver Kiddush Cup bidspirit”
Chanukah oil use Yes versus candles due to the miracle happening with oil on Chanukah lasting 8 days
Pesach Seder 3 matzos needed halachically and not only for kohein Levi and Yisroel but for all the steps of the Pesach Seder to make it through while the rest of Pesach only 2 at a time for lechem Mishna are needed
Rest on the list I have no opinion on but everyone has their own minhag of what they grew up with their family holding like halachically. Esrog With pitum or without. Open or closed lulav etc…. And the many other examples you mentioned. Sefardim use Sefer Torah standing up while leining from it so do sefardim say selichos for the entire month of Elul including through Yom kippur.
I heard Pizza on motza is a American minhag, is any source to that?
I heard that a Brisker size slice of kokosh caken is eaten both chasidim and MO, any soucre to that?@ rightwriter Its rather pointless to post a topic in a forum that contains random questions that you could easily research on your own time.
The space is better used as a space for grownups to thoughtfully discuss their opinions about issues of the day.I wasn’t trying to be clever nor pretend to be quick witted. I mistakenly thought that if you realized how stupid it sounds to spew negativity while blaming everyone else for it you would be humbled into changing your tune.
My bad
RW, in most cases, the best minhag is from your family, unless it was clearly off “minhag shtus”.
Sephardi Torahs seem to be easier to handle and store upright. Also, their minhag is to do hagbah BEFORE the reading, which seems to make a lot of sense: you demonstrate the text to the kahal and then read it. If someone sees the problem, he can point it out beforehand. What is the explanation for the Ashkenazi order?
Esrog – Eastern Europe would often get one esrog per town, according to stories. Would they really refuse it if was a pitom or pitom-less type?
Right, you weren’t asking who we pasken like. You were asking who was historically correct, and by extension, who was right and wrong. Beis shamai were “right”, and we will indeed pasken like them when moshiach comes, according to the arizal. Beis hill were also right, and we pasken like them now.
RW did not ask “who is right”, he asked “what was original” minhag. That is not the same. You don’t tell your students that Yaakov wore a shtreimel to support a minhag, I hope.
@RW, what is the minhag of eating pizza on Motza? or a half baked slice on Motza Peasch?
What is the minhag of having a sushi platter at a vort?
And you never answered the Kokosh cake minhag,Wow, you are so positive and inspiring. Looking forward to future threads 😍
Hopefully, if s/he/them sticks around, he’ll improve his manners from the rest of us (NOT:)
wearing a headcover would be one thing. It is mefurash from the Gemora that _married_ men were supposed to wear a sudar (at least Talmidei Chachamim in Bavel).
Some other changes are documented in Gemora. Kesuba was assessed only on real estate. Later on, it was also assessed on movables. This confirms that “original” is not necessarily the “correct” one, especially when there was a beis din ruling to change it.
Days of the week when we do weddings changed a number of times.
Woah, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed! I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone so nasty and babyish on here!
Oh I have, but they usually don’t make it through.
Rw – how do you feel about gefilte fish? Asking for a friend
@RW, is that right? and most of the stuff on your list is not either.
However I will sink to your level and call you names but your matuity leave a lot to desiredFor those who want to know I suggest you read A Lost Art Handmade Silver Kiddush Cups of Eastern Europe by Jonathan Greenstein which you can buy on Amazon
What is the minhag of Horseradish with Geflite fish?
What is the minhag of yelling out Kohaleh during laining?
What is the minhag of serving Kichelech along side of the herring at the kiddush?
What is the minhag of flushing twice using public toilets?How about yelling KOALELEH?
see https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/are-you-a-kaeylah-jew
There’s a sefer composed abd written by a tzaddik filled with all of the minhagim in klal yisroel and the reasons behind each minhag also written in English that can be found in stores today i just forgot the name of the sefer but if you do some research or ask someone who works in a judaica store im sure they would be able to guide tou straight to this sefer listing hundreds to thousands maybe of minhagim in klal yisroel and the reasons behind where each come from.
@RW, its called a courtesy flush
I thought this thread would be about including science, technology, engineering and math in yeshiva curricula.
Same
CS
Here to answer all your questions ! !!!
Troll or not troll? – not troll
Kokosh with hot coffee or cold milk? – under age 16 milk over 16 coffee. Age 16 itself mix the two
Woodburne or Fallsburg? – Woodburne
Tums or Exlax on Motza? – Tums
what is the minhag of eating pizza on Motza? – Pizza is round like the moon but as slices are removed it gets smaller until a new pie is brought out, this reminds us of Kidush levana whcih there is minhag to do Motzoei Shabbos
or a half baked slice on Motza Peasch? – Since it isnt fully baked it can still rise to contrast with Matzah
What is the minhag of having a sushi platter at a vort? – Suchi is lashon of Sos osis which was the Haftorha for chasanim
What is the minhag of Horseradish with Geflite fish? – so that we cry thinking of the Liviyason’s mate that was killed
What is the minhag of yelling out Kohaleh during laining? – I give the answer in the thread you linked to
What is the minhag of serving Kichelech along side of the herring at the kiddush? – When eating on Shabbos we should progress through brias haolam Herring was day 5 (fish) kichel is day 3 (plant) it is improper to skip staright to day 5 so we have day 3 with it
What is the minhag of flushing twice using public toilets? – you answred this one
@ubiquitin, TY TY, I was always looking for the mikor of those minhagim, BH now I know.
@RW, you see here the mikor of these minghagim.These are very intriguing questions. Thank you for starting me on this research trail. Here are my results:
-Kiddush cup stem or not? Yes Why? It’s easier to hold. What was the original minhag? that way.
-Esrog pitom or not? Yes Why? Otherwise it’s possul. What was the original esrog type that was used? teimani.
-Pesach Keaara 2 matzahs or 3? 3
-Megillas Esther foldable or Torah style scroll? Was a scroll ever used? Do some use a scroll?
Don’t fold it.-Torah Ashkenaz scroll or Sephardi scroll? Why the difference and what was used originally?
This one’s too hard for me.-Tzitzis white strings or techeles? both White stripes or black? no stripes. Techeles Beged? optional.
-Chanuka oil or wax candles? Either
-Matza machine made or hand made? handmade What is more kosher? depends which hechsher .What are we commemorating the Yetzias Mitzrayim or Korban Pesach? When?
-Lulav closed or open? closed Koshalach or tied together? a holder. Whats the original minhag? to use gold rings. some say they were palm bedecked in gold.
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