The Anti-Vaxxers are Causing a Chillul Hashem
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December 5, 2018 7:21 am at 7:21 am #1637587MilhouseParticipant
Doomsday made a very specific claim: “Congress requested from the CDC a Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed Study, but the CDC refuses.”
I did not believe Congress ever made such a request, so i asked when this happened. “On what date did the joint resolution pass either house, and what is its number? Was there any response from the CDC, and if so when, and what was it? Put up or shut up.”
Of course Doomsday could not answer these questions, because the claim is yet another one of his/her lies. Instead s/he referred to HR 1757 (113th). This is not a joint resolution, let alone an act (which of course the CDC could not refuse). It’s not even a resolution by one chamber. It was a bill for an act that was introduced into the House in the 113th Congress on Apr-25-2013, which referred it to the Referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, which in turn referred it to the Referred to the Subcommittee on Health, which treated it with the contempt it deserved, taking no further action.
In other words, Doomsday lied yet again. Congress never requested a study, never even came close to requesting it, and of course the CDC could not respond to a request that was never made.
This is the quality of all Doomsday’s claims. Every one of them falls apart the moment you look at it.December 5, 2018 7:24 am at 7:24 am #1637594MilhouseParticipant
By the way, just in case Doomsday doesn’t realize this, the 113th Congress no longer exists. The 115th is nearing its end, and in a month the 116th will be sworn in. So this bill no longer exists either.December 5, 2018 11:48 am at 11:48 am #1637777Yserbius123Participant
@doomsday I’m going to keep posting this comment until you respond. You’re moving the goalposts again! Now you’re focused on SIDS. Why stick with one study when you have your big 157 studies to back you up? Reason: There are no studies demonstrating a link, certainly not 157 of them. The claim of 157 was made by some anti-medicine blogger and is debunked in the articles whose names I posted below.
Remember, you have to Google the following:
- “Vaccines and autism: A thorough review of the evidence” from the blog “The Logic of Science”
- “About Those Research Papers Supporting the Vaccine/Autism Link” from the blog “Vaxopedia”
To remind everyone: @doomsday stated on another thread (over and over again) that there are many studies linking immunization to autism. First s/he claimed 24, but that number went up to 157 the next day. Instead of providing a source, s/he kept saying “Google it”. S/he is constantly calling me and others “liars” because we don’t believe him/her. So I Googled it and found a few blogs debunking the claim but s/he keeps pretending I didn’t.December 5, 2018 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #1638168☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
We should make a list of Doomsday’s lies.
She hasn’t answered the “Congress” lie, yet but there are so many others.
2) Merck insert (“shedding”)
3) 157 studies
I’ll let others add to the list.March 1, 2019 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #1688172☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMarch 8, 2019 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm #1691567ChizukGedarimParticipant
I just wanted to address one of the responses that people are not blaming the Jews for some of these outbreaks. In the case of the Measles outbreak, that is certainly not the case. Taken from the CDC website (https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html)
Reasons for an increase in cases some years:
2018: The U.S. experienced 17 outbreaks in 2018. Three outbreaks in New York State, New York City, and New Jersey, respectively, contributed to most of the cases. Cases in those states occurred primarily among unvaccinated people in Orthodox Jewish communities. These outbreaks were associated with travelers who brought measles back from Israel, where a large outbreak is occurring. Eighty-two people brought measles to the U.S. from other countries in 2018. This is the greatest number of imported cases since measles was eliminated from the U.S. in 2000.
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